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Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GrapheneOS would solve this issue permanently.

Or lineageos if you want something usable and not developed by a lunatic https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0

GrapheneOS is very usable, I've been using it for the past three years or so. Regarding the lunatic part, I thought he resigned as lead dev.

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

#42

Google TV 4K only supports 5Ghz WiFi on channels 36, 40, 44 or 48. Their well aware of the issue and haven't done anything to fix it since its release 2 years ago. Discovered while helping a friend set his up. Most consumers don't know how to channel peg WiFi. Seems like a massive flaw, adjusting WiFi to suit one device? Really does not inspire confidence spending money on any Google product. https://old.reddit.com/r…

This is extremely common with smart TVs of all sorts, and smart devices in general. Every 5ghz-capable Roku device is in the same boat, for example.

The 5ghz spectrum in the US is broken up into UNII 1, 2, 2 Extended, and 3, which all have their own separate FCC regulations and certification process. Lazy manufacturers for these types of devices don't want to go through more than one process, especially for UNII 2 and 2-Extended channels, which have stricter requirements. So they just do the lower channels.

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

#43

Until recently pixel did not allowed 5G in several Europeans countries, it was sw disabled. Meanwhile they activated it some weeks ago because they are launching the phone officially there . This kind of things is just stupidity, no one in the world does that why would they do? To provide a bad experience? It seems that they have a product team full of lawyers. Instead of putting sw engineers working on these blocks…

If a device is still pending approval by the RF spectrum regulator in a country, they're required to not use those channels by law. Software blocks mean that they can sell a device that's hardware capable before regulatory approval, and then unlock the functionality later. It allows them to ship the same hardware globally but comply with differing laws in different regions, and it's far from just google that does this. Every major wireless access point vendor, for example, will require you to identify the country in which you are operating and software lock which channels you are allowed to use, alongside other limitations like transmit power.

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

#44

Google TV 4K only supports 5Ghz WiFi on channels 36, 40, 44 or 48. Their well aware of the issue and haven't done anything to fix it since its release 2 years ago. Discovered while helping a friend set his up. Most consumers don't know how to channel peg WiFi. Seems like a massive flaw, adjusting WiFi to suit one device? Really does not inspire confidence spending money on any Google product. https://old.reddit.com/r…

LG OLED55C8PLA, launched in 2018. expensive, but incredible display: https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs-soundbars/smart-tvs/oled55c8pla/

can’t connect to my 5ghz wifi (80mhz/channel 149).

and the ethernet connection is only 100Mbit.

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

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If that's real, that is insane. Why buy a pixel? You have to go out of your way to develop this feature too? It's not like there is anything country specific about connecting to wifi. People had a meetings discussing this and thought it was a good idea and some developer actually coded this.

> It's not like there is anything country specific about connecting to wifi.

Yes there is. Each country has a lot of different laws and certifications necessary to operate radio equipment in the country.

> Why buy a pixel?

The odds of me going to Sri Lanka or pretty much any country affected by this is practically zero. Why would I base my purchase decision on something that's got like a 0.001% chance of ever affecting me instead of the myriad of other things that'll affect me every day?

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

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post #44

Google TV 4K only supports 5Ghz WiFi on channels 36, 40, 44 or 48. Their well aware of the issue and haven't done anything to fix it since its release 2 years ago. Discovered while helping a friend set his up. Most consumers don't know how to channel peg WiFi. Seems like a massive flaw, adjusting WiFi to suit one device? Really does not inspire confidence spending money on any Google product. https://old.reddit.com/r…

LG OLED55C8PLA, launched in 2018. expensive, but incredible display: https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs-soundbars/smart-tvs/oled55c8pla/ can’t connect to my 5ghz wifi (80mhz/channel 149). and the ethernet connection is only 100Mbit.

Honestly, there’s literally no reason to use the LG WebOS software though.

Like, it’s literally just bad. I don’t even know where my LG remote is.

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

#47

So if you ever go on holiday, its safer not to buy a google pixel? Who comes up with these dumb ideas.

Lawyers. Regulators. Politicians. Most countries are swamped with regulations that are inflexible, insist on not recognising testing/accreditation done in other countries by default, exist to provide a moat for an entrenched interest group, etc.

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Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

#48

So if you ever go on holiday, its safer not to buy a google pixel? Who comes up with these dumb ideas.

Lawyers. Regulators. Politicians. Most countries are swamped with regulations that are inflexible, insist on not recognising testing/accreditation done in other countries by default, exist to provide a moat for an entrenched interest group, etc.

The regulations for wifi are published and well known. Google just couldn't be bothered to get certification - the end result being that legitimate pixel owners arent able to use their devices when they go to certain countries. Its just laziness on googles part, and it is the consumer of their own products who suffer.

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GrapheneOS would solve this issue permanently.

Or lineageos if you want something usable and not developed by a lunatic https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0

Lineageos is also less stable than GrapheneOS and of course far less secure than GOS. It’s also less secure than stock Pixel OS or any other Android OS that supports verified boot.

Re: Pixel 7 WiFi does not work in certain countries

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post #46
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LG OLED55C8PLA, launched in 2018. expensive, but incredible display: https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs-soundbars/smart-tvs/oled55c8pla/ can’t connect to my 5ghz wifi (80mhz/channel 149). and the ethernet connection is only 100Mbit.

Honestly, there’s literally no reason to use the LG WebOS software though. Like, it’s literally just bad. I don’t even know where my LG remote is.

personally lg webos is by far the best tv os.
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