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Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#41

This is terrible advice. The author is essentially discounting the value of aesthetic, which is nonsense, and then suggesting that if you do value aesthetic you automatically have a bad product or a bad investor, again utter rubbish. I argue it’s the other way, discounting aesthetic in this way to me says you are either lazy (and therefore I should be concerned about credibility and other gaps) or you are a contraria…

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Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#42
Maybe if the thing you're selling is something "disruptive" enough that people will give you that pass. But if you're selling another variation of or you better have a baseline (aka good) level of polish. people absolutely judge you based on those pages.

i can't tell you the last time i went to a corporate site that had a shitty landing page and a wonderful to use product. this advice was sound 10 years ago, not now IMO.

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#44
Yes but no.

I was involved with a startup that ultimately failed because of the dot com bubble, but one major observation was that everyone who used our product was fantastically enthusiastic about it, but persuading them that they needed it in the first place was really difficult. Making the login page look pretty helps with that.

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#45
In a world where everyone and their grandmother has a (on the surface) polished SaaS side-gig appearance does matter if you want to be taken seriously. It shouldn't be but it's the truth.

If time is an issue then you find a way to polish without spending much time. What does the login page need except for a logo, a form and a few links? Remove the bloat and keeping things polished becomes easier than fixing it after the fact. Less is more.

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#47
> then you can eventually think about your companies branding.

Not sure that I can find common ground with this statement.

Branding is something that tends to be poorly understood (or supported) by "doers," (usually the tech people that are implementing the product).

The thing is, no one really appreciates a brand, unless it is successful.

I worked for a company that was (possibly still is) one of the premier brands in the world.

They had no cohesive branding strategy for about 75 of their 100 years, and ended up "retrofitting" a cohesive branding strategy, in the 1990s (my boss, who eventually became the Chairman, was behind that).

It was quite painful. It ended up working out, but there was a lot of agita.

I think we shouldn't "bikeshed" branding, but we'd be well advised to keep it in mind, from Day One.

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#48
> the customer doesn't value your product

> you don't have a product worth investing in

> your message isn't worth being executed on

Obviously, none of these are hurdles to playing the startup game. Appearances matter, regardless of whether you believe they should matter.

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#49
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your conclusion is hard to argue against, but I'd like to pitch in that some customers explicitly want something that's not well designed. In particular, those customers that think adopting an early-stage prototype will give them a competitive advantage, they expect something that's not well designed. If they get something shiny when they've asked for a prototype, they'll be worried you're trying to hide a turd behin…

Super interesting, I think this level of 3D client interaction is above my pay grade

It pulls at a compelling thread about the differential possibilities of design and the identities it's coded against. Anti-design is an inherently valuable approach to work. It can let us think about how to achieve the right client fit, the right product motivations, and the right overall system incentives. This isn't to agree (per se) that only bad clients want glossy design in prototypes, but rather to suggest that we as people self-segregate into particular visual cultures that may seem inherently bad to outsiders. Design, or the perceived lack of it, can be a form of (highly valued) in-group signalling that allows us to sieve out the wrong kinds of interactions.

And then sometimes bad design is just great on its own merits. By way of example: https://x.com/NCTreasurer/status/1577673238536245248?s=20

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27581391

Do you have that bookmarked, or just really good at searching?

For that I had the quote saved to a text file of comments, with the link.

If it were something like a web page which I found worthwhile it'd be saved as a MHTML, categorized and with notes in the filename for quick searching via Everything. I don't use bookmarks for anything except regularly accessed pages.

20 years ago there was an article[1] that argued anything worth sharing was worth saving, on the benefit of keeping a copy of content locally vs linking/bookmarking (which is prone to link rot). Ironically that site itself no longer exists.

> If you want your links to be worth anything in two, three, or five years, download all the pages you're linking to to your hard disk.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20030207224216/http://www.j-brad...

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