Richard Stallman Talks Red Hat, AI and Ethical Software Licenses at GNU Birthday

Post by Turing_Machine » Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 2:54 PM UTC

n4r9 wrote: post #39

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His thinking here leans on assuming that there's a qualitative difference between LLM's "understanding" and our "understanding" that justifies using the term for us, but not for LLMs. Maybe there is, but their reasoning ability is sufficient that I don't think is at all a given, and at a minimum an assertion that should make you ask someone how they define "understanding", because defining that in a way that is focus…

> assuming that there's a qualitative difference between LLM's "understanding" and our "understanding" that justifies using the term for us, but not for LLMs If there is no qualitative difference, then human brains are no more than machines that predict the next word at each step. This could be the case, but instinctively I feel that it's not. You're right that it's very tricky - there's some interesting approaches,…

Post by n4r9 » Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 2:59 PM UTC

Turing_Machine wrote: post #41

n4r9 wrote: post #39

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> assuming that there's a qualitative difference between LLM's "understanding" and our "understanding" that justifies using the term for us, but not for LLMs If there is no qualitative difference, then human brains are no more than machines that predict the next word at each step. This could be the case, but instinctively I feel that it's not. You're right that it's very tricky - there's some interesting approaches,…

I just tried this with ChatGPT 4. Response: Chris is playing table-tennis with Bob. Edit: ChatGPT 3.5 gives me the response you reported.

Post by Turing_Machine » Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 3:02 PM UTC

n4r9 wrote: post #43

Turing_Machine wrote: post #41

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I just tried this with ChatGPT 4. Response: Chris is playing table-tennis with Bob. Edit: ChatGPT 3.5 gives me the response you reported.

Interesting, thanks! What is ChatGPT4's response to this, if you don't mind? ---------------- Imagine that I take a road trip starting from Amsterdam, visit the cities Warsaw, Budapest, Brussels, Paris, and Berlin, and then return to Amsterdam. In what sequence should I visit those cities in order to minimise the total driving time? ----------------

Post by n4r9 » Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 3:13 PM UTC

Turing_Machine wrote: post #45

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Interesting, thanks! What is ChatGPT4's response to this, if you don't mind? ---------------- Imagine that I take a road trip starting from Amsterdam, visit the cities Warsaw, Budapest, Brussels, Paris, and Berlin, and then return to Amsterdam. In what sequence should I visit those cities in order to minimise the total driving time? ----------------

To minimize total driving time, a logical sequence would be: Amsterdam → Brussels → Paris → Berlin → Warsaw → Budapest → Amsterdam. This route forms a relatively compact loop, minimizing backtracking and excessive driving distances. However, for the most accurate and updated information, it's advisable to use a GPS or online mapping service like Google Maps to plan your route.

Post by dyingkneepad » Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 3:15 PM UTC

0atman wrote: post #35

I went to a small talk rms gave in London in around 2009. The talk was unmemorable (my fault, likely, not his) but the Q&A afterwards was remarkable: He screamed at people for using 'open source' instead of 'free software' in their questions, raved about the Amazon "Swindle" like a 12-year-old, and talked over and down to everyone. He was often accurate in the core of what he was trying to say, but his attitude was u…