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Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by dhruvdh » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:18 PM UTC

londons_explore wrote: post #27

If you use the bing chat interface and say "Can you draw me a picture of X?", then it responds with "I’m sorry, but I’m not able to draw pictures. Is there anything else I can help you with?" followed immediately by "Your image is taking a while to generate. Check your image creation progress at Image Creator." Looks like they might perhaps be using a LLM for the chat responses that isn't aware that it has the abilit…

I think this has to do with the verb "draw". LLM is just saying it cannot draw. The image generation is likely a function it "calls". The LLM probably thinks of the image generator as a tool it uses, a separate entity from itself.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by altcognito » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:20 PM UTC

hn_20591249 wrote: post #5

As with most of these tools, it appears that it is reasonably easy to get it to generate some truly hilarious/disturbing stuff, probably not for long: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/16wf1i0/dalle_3_is...

I'm kind of hoping that they adjust it to ask for clarification or find some sort of soft adjustment to make them less problematic rather than just trying to do blind keyword blocking.

Of course, I'd love for them to take the approach as well that folks are just going to do what they do, and maybe they'll burn out the novelty and give it a rest.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by emptysongglass » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:22 PM UTC

Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer. You can give Bing an existing picture but it will analyze it then turn it into a string description which it then feeds into DALL-E 3. Plus it blurs faces. So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get.

And as usual, Bing Chat itself seems to suffer from some significantly higher boundaries around its behavior, which really lobotomizes the chat experience compared to "actual" ChatGPT.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by gcau » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:24 PM UTC

Very impressive. I hope we get the ability for "meta" things to work, like asking for a rectangular image, a 16x16 spritesheet, etc. Also, not using Bing search, sorry MS.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by brrrrrm » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:25 PM UTC

londons_explore wrote: post #27

If you use the bing chat interface and say "Can you draw me a picture of X?", then it responds with "I’m sorry, but I’m not able to draw pictures. Is there anything else I can help you with?" followed immediately by "Your image is taking a while to generate. Check your image creation progress at Image Creator." Looks like they might perhaps be using a LLM for the chat responses that isn't aware that it has the abilit…

Probably. I’ve had limited success getting LLMs (trained on chats/instruct) to output special codes indicating they’re communicating with a separate system (e.g. google, stable diffusion) and then taking that and feeding it back to the user

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by conradfr » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:27 PM UTC

morelisp wrote: post #40

dooraven wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that seems like an awful deal for OpenAI. Especially since there are so many AI Labs popping up, how exactly are they going to make enough profit to pay back 10 billion?

If they can't pay it back, that seems like an awful deal for MS, and a great deal for OpenAI.

Of course it's "only" 10% of their cash reserve anyway.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by mardifoufs » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:29 PM UTC

anonzzzies wrote: post #12

I have been generating things for the last 24 hours; it's really nice. I really don't like the discord interface of midjourney.

Midjourney is discord only? Wait, that sounds like an insane load (just the storage+bandwidth, I know the models don't run there) on Discord's servers. It's a pretty neat way to be able to scale super quickly at first but I would think that discord wouldn't like it. I would also have imagined that they'd have built their own interface by now.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by throwuwu » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:32 PM UTC

dangero wrote: post #29

famouswaffles wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same reason Bing was running GPT-4 before Open AI even acknowledged the existence of the model. The $10B deal gives Microsoft exclusive access to all Open AI models.

Feels like a breaking issue for GPTPlus subscription plan when Bing has better features for free

Feature. Once the multimodal rollout is complete Plus will have image gen, image recognition, voice recognition and voice gen all integrated with the chat capabilities so you can combine those features in novel ways like the link Brockman retweeted showing ChatGPT acting as a language tutor and conversation partner.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by famouswaffles » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:34 PM UTC

emptysongglass wrote: post #43

Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer. You can give Bing an existing picture but it will analyze it then turn it into a string description which it then feeds into DALL-E 3. Plus it blurs faces. So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get. And as usual, Bing Chat itself seems to suffer from some significantly higher boundaries around its…

>Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer.

>So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get.

There's no indication the cGPT interface will be doing anything different. If you see the demo, it's clearly generating text for each image at the start.

Maybe you will be able to inpaint/outpaint from GPT but that's definitely not been confirmed yet

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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Post by abraham » Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 2:35 PM UTC

atum47 wrote: post #34

Bing is kinda desperate it seems. I went to install GPT on my device yesterday and the first app result was a sponsored one - bing - telling can you can earn prizes by using the app. Don't know if they are more interested in growing the number of users or collecting that sweet data. Probably both.

Bing Rewards was launched in 2010 so apparently it's working enough to keep it around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bing#:~:text=Bing%20....