Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device • Hacker News Board

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by saulpw » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:06 PM UTC

hashtag-til wrote: post #33

noman-land wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What game is it that is required? Opting out of bullshit social pressures is a step toward psychological freedom.

Refreshing to see comment like this. Pro tip: ditch also Twitter/X, Insta, Facebook, TikTok and all that crap.

Okay now imagine you're a plumber. How are you going to advertise your services to get business? Put an ad in the Yellow Pages? Post flyers around the neighborhood? Make an ad on Craigslist?

It's easy to say "ditch all that crap" when you have other people in your corporation who use all that crap so you can just show up at your job and do your work. But the crap is still there, becoming a necessary tool for functioning in society, one impressionable teenager at a time.

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by twoodfin » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:07 PM UTC

TheAlchemist wrote: post #6

And the timing of this rumor, which the article admits has absolutely no specifics nor leg to stand on, has certainly nothing to do with their attempt to raise funds at a $90 billion valuation. I can't help thinking that we're in for another 'AI winter' after so much hype with Tesla, Nvidia and chatGPT.

I’d say more like the dot com-era Linux bubble: Linux did change the world and created an insane amount of economic value, but did not spawn a wave of sustainable Linux-centered megacorps.

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by sova » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:09 PM UTC

ilaksh wrote: post #32

sova wrote: post #17

Why wait for news when we can settle for gossip and speculation /s

Its hilarious and kind of stupid that this empty rumour has so much traction. I think it just demonstrates that there is a lot of excitement about the possibilities of AI and also of new gadgets. It's like, imagine the most awesome gadget ever, now multiply times REAL AI. How can that _not_ be amazing? Whatever it is?? Heh. But it's also such a fun and engaging exercise to think how AI could be embedded in a new devi…

It's true, we have to rethink the fundamental interface; some blend of aesthetics like vinyl and record players similar to how Steve Jobs incorporated into the early iPod would be interested to keep. Aesthetic / UX wisdom pieces from the past, with the infinite canvas of the 90s (the web), to the modern digital sculpture bendable paper interface of the near-Now, some delightful advancements to keep our heads turning like the feathers of a peacock.

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by vasco » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:12 PM UTC

jmcphers wrote: post #13

Prediction based on the history of these two luminaries of the industry: a beautiful, featureless orb that uses AI to autonomously scan your eyeballs and enroll you in crypto scams[1]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/scrutiny-iris-scanning-cr...

It will use a special charging cable and tell you that as an orb it is not capable of answering you why.

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by otteromkram » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:12 PM UTC

saulpw wrote: post #41

hashtag-til wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Refreshing to see comment like this. Pro tip: ditch also Twitter/X, Insta, Facebook, TikTok and all that crap.

Okay now imagine you're a plumber. How are you going to advertise your services to get business? Put an ad in the Yellow Pages? Post flyers around the neighborhood? Make an ad on Craigslist? It's easy to say "ditch all that crap" when you have other people in your corporation who use all that crap so you can just show up at your job and do your work. But the crap is still there, becoming a necessary tool for function…

Fun fact: Business and personal accounts don't have to be the same thing.

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by sacnoradhq » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:21 PM UTC

Prayer hands emoji that it's a personal cloud, semi-OSS, Alexa killer with wide IoT support.

Could also be another Siri with intent to sell to MAA_G.

Lots of potential personal agent plays possible now on consumer price point AI accelerated hardware.

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by fotcorn » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:25 PM UTC

jmcphers wrote: post #13

Prediction based on the history of these two luminaries of the industry: a beautiful, featureless orb that uses AI to autonomously scan your eyeballs and enroll you in crypto scams[1]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/scrutiny-iris-scanning-cr...

And you can't scan eyeballs while it's charging.

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by isotropy » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:32 PM UTC

carlthrowaway wrote: post #15

skilled wrote: post #3

> One possibility is OpenAI is building its own operating system... Imagine an AI-native operating system that could generate apps in real-time based on what it believes its user needs, or one that listens to nearby conversations and automatically pulls up relevant information for its user. I’m imagining that right now… it’s not looking good.

Carl leaned back in his leather chair, a cup of steaming chamomile tea beside him. The article he'd just read about Jony Ive and Sam Altman's possible collaboration on an AI device floated around in his mind. He looked out at the bustling city through the tall windows of his penthouse office, pondering the future. "In a world increasingly reliant on instant information and instant solutions," he mused aloud, "it isn'…

Oddly echoes Asimov's "The Feeling of Power": https://urbigenous.net/library/power.html

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by thelastgallon » Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 11:35 PM UTC

"Adding a twist to the saga is the involvement of Masayoshi Son, the CEO of Japanese multinational investment company SoftBank. Son, who has invested more than $140 billion into AI-related startups, has also reportedly been in talks with Ive and Altman about the idea."

I can only speculate, they are going after the only market remaining that has 10 trillion potential[1] which current incumbents won't enter into: Something like Autoblow AI, but it will blow your mind as well with its design.

[1]Masayoshi Son is famous for imagining 10T companies, such as wework: https://www.axios.com/2021/08/07/10-trillion-mirage-wework-b...

Re: Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Altman reportedly collaborating on mysterious AI device

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Post by saulpw » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 12:04 AM UTC

otteromkram wrote: post #45

saulpw wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay now imagine you're a plumber. How are you going to advertise your services to get business? Put an ad in the Yellow Pages? Post flyers around the neighborhood? Make an ad on Craigslist? It's easy to say "ditch all that crap" when you have other people in your corporation who use all that crap so you can just show up at your job and do your work. But the crap is still there, becoming a necessary tool for function…

Fun fact: Business and personal accounts don't have to be the same thing.

Sure. But this is what is meant by "required to play the game". And it's also happening on a personal level--witness the number of events I haven't been invited to because I'm not on Facebook.