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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by ravetcofx »

mcmoor wrote: post #34
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #4

Here's a good summary of controversy surrounding Fandom and why fandoms tend to leave: https://www.koopatv.org/2022/10/why-people-dont-like-fandom-... And it doesn't even really touch on how Fandom, sometimes, refuses to delete the old wiki for traffic purposes, and leaves it up as a "zombie" wiki that smothers the new wiki due to SEO, or the more serious conflicts between some admins and contributors in some other s…

Anyone who tries to worship Jimmy Wales for Wikipedia should know that if he really have his way, he'd turn it into this horrible mess of Fandom, which he also founded. Luckily the volunteers rightfully take Wikipedia from him. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/wikipedia-spanish-fork

Surprise surprise the rich aren't our friends

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by jjice »

Fandom (I really prefer their old name, "Wikia") is a great concept. Deal with hosting the wiki so you can focus on content. The problem is that they need to make money, and to do that, they do it with some of the most obnoxious ads on any reputable site on the modern internet. Using their site on a mobile browser is one of the worst web experiences I've ever had. Autoplaying video ad banners on the top with a smaller ad banner on the bottom while I scroll past an ad in the middle of the article.

I'm all for seeing wikis leave them because it'll be a huge usability win. Fandom can still fill the gap for small niche wikis that don't want to deal with hosting and such, but larger established wikis using their own platform will be great.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by boomboomsubban »

charcircuit wrote: post #42

Reminder that all Mojang and Minecraft accounts were deleted last Tuesday. The fact that they are removing a the ability for people to access a game they paid for is unacceptable and should be illegal.

Huh? What accounts were deleted from where? As a base reading of what you said sounds like "all Minecraft accounts were deleted Tuesday" which surely would have been major news.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by doublepg23 »

jjice wrote: post #43

Fandom (I really prefer their old name, "Wikia") is a great concept. Deal with hosting the wiki so you can focus on content. The problem is that they need to make money, and to do that, they do it with some of the most obnoxious ads on any reputable site on the modern internet. Using their site on a mobile browser is one of the worst web experiences I've ever had. Autoplaying video ad banners on the top with a smalle…

Indeed, it's hard to overstate how bad of an experience it is. The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP, a wiki) https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page vs the Elder Scrolls "Fandom" website https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki is night and day in terms of usability and user respect.

I think Google is partially to blame as it seems to rank Fandom pages way higher than self-hosted wikis.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by charcircuit »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #44
charcircuit wrote: post #42

Reminder that all Mojang and Minecraft accounts were deleted last Tuesday. The fact that they are removing a the ability for people to access a game they paid for is unacceptable and should be illegal.

Huh? What accounts were deleted from where? As a base reading of what you said sounds like " all Minecraft accounts were deleted Tuesday" which surely would have been major news.

>What accounts were deleted from where?

All Mojang and Minecraft accounts were deleted from Mojang's servers.

>which surely would have been major news.

I wish it was. In a few months people will want to revisit the game and then realize they have to rebuy the game if they want to play it again.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by thaumasiotes »

pixl97 wrote: post #36
ghotli wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow I've looked up stuff on the vampire survivors wiki on fandom a lot in the last year and this comment surprised me. Going to that website in regular ol' chrome without an adblocker was an experience indeed. I had no idea. You might find joy just putting a little bit of time into your browser setup. I was blissfully unaware of how bad that user experience was. Hope this helps!

I had one of these moments where I was like "Why does anyone use apps like tic tok/instagram/whatever and not just surf the web? Then I browsed on the web without on a computer without an adblocker after years of having it on my phone and computer. My thought was then reversed, "Why isn't the web dead, why do people that don't know how to adblock subject themselves to this crap".

You can ask an important related question:

Why are there people that don't know how to adblock?

Usually information this important will spread to the people that need it. That hasn't happened here. What's blocking it?

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by boomboomsubban »

charcircuit wrote: post #46
boomboomsubban wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? What accounts were deleted from where? As a base reading of what you said sounds like " all Minecraft accounts were deleted Tuesday" which surely would have been major news.

>What accounts were deleted from where? All Mojang and Minecraft accounts were deleted from Mojang's servers. >which surely would have been major news. I wish it was. In a few months people will want to revisit the game and then realize they have to rebuy the game if they want to play it again.

>All Mojang and Minecraft accounts were deleted from Mojang's servers

As somebody who's never touched Minecraft, surely all Minecraft accounts are Minecraft/Mojang accounts? If everybody playing suddenly needed to rebuy the game Tuesday it would have been big news.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by charcircuit »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #48
charcircuit wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What accounts were deleted from where? All Mojang and Minecraft accounts were deleted from Mojang's servers. >which surely would have been major news. I wish it was. In a few months people will want to revisit the game and then realize they have to rebuy the game if they want to play it again.

>All Mojang and Minecraft accounts were deleted from Mojang's servers As somebody who's never touched Minecraft, surely all Minecraft accounts are Minecraft/Mojang accounts? If everybody playing suddenly needed to rebuy the game Tuesday it would have been big news.

Minecraft now only supports Microsoft accounts as they deleted all other accounts.

Minecraft accounts were the original account system that minecraft used. Once Mojang was working on Scrolls they created the Mojang account system to span all of the studio's games. After the acquisition by Microsoft it was changed so that people buying Minecraft would instead use Microsoft accounts.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Post by AraceliHarker »

pixl97 wrote: post #36
ghotli wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow I've looked up stuff on the vampire survivors wiki on fandom a lot in the last year and this comment surprised me. Going to that website in regular ol' chrome without an adblocker was an experience indeed. I had no idea. You might find joy just putting a little bit of time into your browser setup. I was blissfully unaware of how bad that user experience was. Hope this helps!

I had one of these moments where I was like "Why does anyone use apps like tic tok/instagram/whatever and not just surf the web? Then I browsed on the web without on a computer without an adblocker after years of having it on my phone and computer. My thought was then reversed, "Why isn't the web dead, why do people that don't know how to adblock subject themselves to this crap".

Currently, the availability of ad blockers is limited on smartphones, which are used by many people for web browsing. In some regions, web browsing may be restricted without using a VPN. In such cases, smartphones cannot be used in combination with a VPN and a standalone ad blocker such as AdGuard. As a result, some people may give up using ad blockers. DNS-based ad blockers can achieve some of the same goals, but they are less effective than standalone ad blockers and are more likely to be detected by anti-ad blockers.
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