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iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

#41

I will break the HN spirit, but im fucking horrified of this thread. _So_ many people being happy that a company is protecting them from themselves, or their family members. Where is my controversial personal websites? Did i take a wrong left turn somewhere?

Most people on HN are from the same cultural niche Apple is located in, in a country founded by actual bonafide Puritans.

Of course they are OK with a machine being an obnoxious prude.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

#43

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Does that sort of content show up often for people who would not prefer it and don't go looking for it? As someone who's used earlier versions of iOS for some years now, and who knows a bunch more people who also have, that's not a problem I'm aware any of us ever experiencing. I realise that anecdotes are not data, but it doesn't seem like it should be a common issue at all...

> Does that sort of content show up often for people who would not prefer it and don't go looking for it? Oh yes. https://www.psypost.org/2020/08/new-research-uncovers-womens... .

> Only 26% of women reported having a positive reaction.

I would consider that surprisingly high lol. 1 in 4 women is happy about receiving unsolicited dick pics, really?

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

#44

I will break the HN spirit, but im fucking horrified of this thread. _So_ many people being happy that a company is protecting them from themselves, or their family members. Where is my controversial personal websites? Did i take a wrong left turn somewhere?

This is an opt-in feature. You can enable it for yourself. It is also available as a parental control for your kid's devices. I think that is 100% appropriate.

I don't want to see dick pic spam. Actually I don't want anyone to send me naked pictures. Previously it was up to every messaging app to figure this out themselves. Now they can use the Sensitive Content Analysis framework. It also means they don't need to give PTSD to humans building a model to classify crap like CSAM images.

All it does is detection. It is up to the app whether to prohibit sending/receiving the message, how to notify the user, etc. The API documentation says this:

> Apple provides the SensitiveContentAnalysis framework to prevent people from viewing unwanted content, not as a way for an app to report on someone’s behavior. To protect user privacy, don’t transmit any information off the user’s device about whether the SensitiveContentAnalysis framework has identified an image or video as containing nudity. For more information, see the Developer Program License Agreement.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

#45
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That's not what your article is about though, or even so much as mentions in passing, so I find the critique that the provided data is not about CSAM legitimate

> That's not what your article is about though… Teen Girls’ Experiences Negotiating the Ubiquitous Dick Pic: Sexual Double Standards and the Normalization of Image Based Sexual Harassment : https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-021-01236-3 "The YouGov poll also highlighted that, of all of the women questioned, 46% received an unsolicited dick pic before the age of 18…" Hope that helps.

This is not CSAM. CSAM is none of:

- A child receiving an adult's naked pictures.

- An adult sending a child an adult's naked pictures.

- Children sending each other their own naked pictures.

CSAM is specifically adults producing naked, sexual pictures of children. Your example is categorically not that.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

#46

If its local scanning, this is fine. Dare I say, its a pretty good use of machine vision.

Even if done locally, it's still creepy.

Why? Its a slab of silicon scanning a representation of a photo and spitting out a probability. Its no less creepy than originally taking the photo, and postprocessing it, and categorizing it in your photos app.

If any kind of metrics leave the phone's chassis as a result, then its quite creepy, but I was operating under the assumption that they are not.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

#48

I will break the HN spirit, but im fucking horrified of this thread. _So_ many people being happy that a company is protecting them from themselves, or their family members. Where is my controversial personal websites? Did i take a wrong left turn somewhere?

This is an opt-in feature. You can enable it for yourself. It is also available as a parental control for your kid's devices. I think that is 100% appropriate. I don't want to see dick pic spam. Actually I don't want anyone to send me naked pictures. Previously it was up to every messaging app to figure this out themselves. Now they can use the Sensitive Content Analysis framework. It also means they don't need to gi…

This is how they sold it: of course, nobody wants to see unsolicited dick pics. Good framing, they obviously pay their marketing department very well. Yet, consider how many unsolicited dick pics you actually see in a day, week, or month- and if sometimes blocking a % of them is worth permanently ceding more privacy to Apple.

If you’re seeing so many dick pics to where this is positive trade off for you, you need to reflect on how you’re interacting with the web.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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So, I can’t make stickers with penises in them for whatever reason (you’d think they’d lump creating/receiving them in the same setting), but the ‘are you sure you want to send or receive something that looks naughty’ was, in fact, turned off by default for me. Anyone else?

It’s meant for kids.

Stickers are made for kids? No, not at all. Perhaps it's just not your communication style.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

#50
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an opt-in feature. You can enable it for yourself. It is also available as a parental control for your kid's devices. I think that is 100% appropriate. I don't want to see dick pic spam. Actually I don't want anyone to send me naked pictures. Previously it was up to every messaging app to figure this out themselves. Now they can use the Sensitive Content Analysis framework. It also means they don't need to gi…

This is how they sold it: of course, nobody wants to see unsolicited dick pics. Good framing, they obviously pay their marketing department very well. Yet, consider how many unsolicited dick pics you actually see in a day, week, or month- and if sometimes blocking a % of them is worth permanently ceding more privacy to Apple. If you’re seeing so many dick pics to where this is positive trade off for you, you need to…

Some of my female friends get them quite regularly. So idk.
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