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Re: Hedy Lamarr (2018)

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Note that this "Austrian-American actress" (I understand the helpful wording is aimed at non-buffs who may not recognise the name Hedy Lamarr) was a huge star in her day, an equivalent to - say - Margot Robbie.

Got her own joke name in Blazing Saddles. No greater honour.

And a reference in Half-Life 2, of course

Re: Hedy Lamarr (2018)

#43

Serious question, how is she “-American”, she lived and worked in the States in the later part of her life, but her roots aren’t American?

She became a US citizen in 1953. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr

She got US citizenship, this doesn’t/shouldn’t make her an Austrian-American actress since that implies that she has American roots.

Re: Hedy Lamarr (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that to put someone on a pedestal simply by dint of their gender, race or sexuality does a disservice to that group. Would love to see a version of this story in which her "just happening to be a fabulously beautiful film star" is a marginal remark. But isn't it the same when we lionise sociopathic, charismatic men [0] who "never cared about norms" but end up enshitifying the world with their reckless enginee…

> But isn't it the same when we lionise sociopathic, charismatic men [0] who "never cared about norms" who is this "we" are you referring to? to me, assholes are assholes. be it a man, woman, it, or anything in between. especially if this person works in adtech and adjacent industry. > my fellow computer scientists might hold up Hank Asher as an example of anything but a criminal seems like a problem with your educat…

> seems like a problem with your education system. I think there's > this thing called ethics, not sure if they teach it there.

Absolutely correct. There's an awful, awful problem with our education system (I am from the UK). It is in ruins, completely unfit for purpose in a modern technological society.

As for ethics, you're right, we absolutely don't teach it. Worse, we actively downplay or avoid it. I speak from experience of witnessing that first hand.

The result: a cult of personality, self-aggrandisement, conquest, kleptomania, and domination passed-off as "business".

I absolutely agree that education has lost its way. Do please read my piece about it in the Times HE next week.

Re: Hedy Lamarr (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She became a US citizen in 1953. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr

She got US citizenship, this doesn’t/shouldn’t make her an Austrian-American actress since that implies that she has American roots.

You're entitled to your opinion, but the use of the "-American" suffix here is consistent with how it is often used for immigrants, e.g. a Chinese person who immigrates to the US could be described as Chinese-American. Or just American. The demonym can reflect both ethnicity and citizenship. Identity is complicated.

Moreover, I don't even know what you mean by "roots." The US is a country of immigrants. What qualifies as having "American roots" in your view?

Re: Hedy Lamarr (2018)

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Wlan is not using frequency hopping or am I mistaken?

It was, briefly. Long before Wi-Fi was a household name when 802.11 (no b) was just standardized for industrial use there was an FHSS PHY. I think Proxim or one of the other defunct industrial data capture companies sold it into the 2000s.

In any case there’s a lot of overlapping commonality in the information theory and engineering of frequency hopping and more modern SS.

Re: Hedy Lamarr (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She became a US citizen in 1953. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr

She got US citizenship, this doesn’t/shouldn’t make her an Austrian-American actress since that implies that she has American roots.

Calling someone X-American implies that they are a citizen or permanent resident of the United States, which she was.

Re: Hedy Lamarr (2018)

#49

Note that this "Austrian-American actress" (I understand the helpful wording is aimed at non-buffs who may not recognise the name Hedy Lamarr) was a huge star in her day, an equivalent to - say - Margot Robbie.

Wow, I'm old. I know who Hedy is, had to look up Margot Robbie.
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