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Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by lm28469 »

rcme wrote: post #13

I always find it weird that people lament population decline. Japan still has a lot of people. Sure, that number is going down now, but you can’t look at the trend and extrapolate that number down to zero. And as the population declines, the number of resources per citizen increases. So people may be better off than before. The largest dangers to Japanese society lie in the transition period, where many elderly peopl…

> I always find it weird that people lament population decline.

> The largest dangers to Japanese society lie in the transition period, where many elderly people will need to be supported by relatively fewer working age people.

You answered your own question.

In a lot of countries the working population pays the pensions, more pensioners and less workers = more stress on the workers. In the long run it's good but it's going to suck ass for a few generations

And that's not even talking about the logistic of taking care of elders, it gets either very expensive or very time consuming, or both. For example in France it costs about $3k a month to have a small room in a shitty retirement house that is already overcrowded and understaffed

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by zo1 »

Crusoe123 wrote: post #27
jesterson wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Nice xenophobia there buddy

Have you not noticed the issues Europe is having? And no one is even studying or discussing it, it's too taboo.

The West is in decline, and they're sealing their own fate because they're allowing themselves to be bullied, turning the other cheek out of politeness.

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by jesterson »

tjpnz wrote: post #36
Cymrukicks wrote: post #28

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Well the lack of focus on family and making it economically, culturally and politically beneficial to younger people especially women to have children would be an extremely obvious one.

What do you mean by lack of focus on family? Having lived here for the better part of a decade I've seen the opposite and tend to view it as one of the defining characteristics of Japanese culture. Things are changing policy-wise to make it easier to raise a family. They're moving fast in that regard and I've witnessed many of these changes firsthand since becoming a father, especially where paternity leave and child…

Exactly my question as well. Rarely you can find a country on world map where family values are cherished more. Luckily Japan has none of feminism, pronouns and related stuff.

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by zo1 »

afr0ck wrote: post #38
jesterson wrote: post #22

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US is literally built on immigration!! Millions of Germans, Italians, Japenese, Persians, Chinese, Indians immigrated to the US since the 18th century. Benjamin Franklin was very worried about German immigrants in the US and he described them as "less intelligent", "aliens" and that they won't assimilate. Fast forward few decades later/centries later, Germans are one of the most successful immigrants group in the US,…

You couldn't pay me to live in France, it's a **hole. I know that's a low-effort comment, but it's important for some people to know what opinions others have outside of their "rainbows and butterflies" worldview.

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by mortureb »

zo1 wrote: post #42
Crusoe123 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice xenophobia there buddy

Have you not noticed the issues Europe is having? And no one is even studying or discussing it, it's too taboo. The West is in decline, and they're sealing their own fate because they're allowing themselves to be bullied, turning the other cheek out of politeness.

The issues in Europe seem to be caused by Russia. What’s your point?

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by Ekaros »

mortureb wrote: post #45
zo1 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you not noticed the issues Europe is having? And no one is even studying or discussing it, it's too taboo. The West is in decline, and they're sealing their own fate because they're allowing themselves to be bullied, turning the other cheek out of politeness.

The issues in Europe seem to be caused by Russia. What’s your point?

Europe in many parts seem to have failed to integrate many of the newer groups. Some have integrated well enough to be noticed. But Sweden well known for inclusivity have strange things happening in certain parts of country.

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by prmoustache »

jesterson wrote: post #22
mortureb wrote: post #2

It’s sad to see a country just fade away. I hope they can convince their people to breed more or let in more immigrants while still maintaining their culture.

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> Was there a precedent in human history when this was successful? Ever?

Most european countries, at their economic height, were the products of centuries of immigrations and invasions.

> It's a huge shame to observe what Europe has turned into with it's immigrant policies

What is a shame is how xenophobic people made of europe with their anti-immigration anti-acceptation practices and turned immigrants against them to make it worse for everyone.

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by prmoustache »

jesterson wrote: post #40
afr0ck wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US is literally built on immigration!! Millions of Germans, Italians, Japenese, Persians, Chinese, Indians immigrated to the US since the 18th century. Benjamin Franklin was very worried about German immigrants in the US and he described them as "less intelligent", "aliens" and that they won't assimilate. Fast forward few decades later/centries later, Germans are one of the most successful immigrants group in the US,…

> France has a huge success story with immigrants as well Oh boy, I would like to hear the "success story" even much more than I would like to continue discussing other things :)

The whole history of France is a success story of immigration. The fact is that the 25% of far right xenophobes in France's population made it turn for the worse by souring our relationship with people from different cultures and religions.

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by prmoustache »

zo1 wrote: post #42
Crusoe123 wrote: post #27

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Nice xenophobia there buddy

Have you not noticed the issues Europe is having? And no one is even studying or discussing it, it's too taboo. The West is in decline, and they're sealing their own fate because they're allowing themselves to be bullied, turning the other cheek out of politeness.

Most of the issues are the consequences of racism and far rights politics and supporter, not immigration.

Re: People aged 80 and over top 10% of Japan's population for first time

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Post by prmoustache »

zo1 wrote: post #44
afr0ck wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US is literally built on immigration!! Millions of Germans, Italians, Japenese, Persians, Chinese, Indians immigrated to the US since the 18th century. Benjamin Franklin was very worried about German immigrants in the US and he described them as "less intelligent", "aliens" and that they won't assimilate. Fast forward few decades later/centries later, Germans are one of the most successful immigrants group in the US,…

You couldn't pay me to live in France, it's a **hole. I know that's a low-effort comment, but it's important for some people to know what opinions others have outside of their "rainbows and butterflies" worldview.

I think you are simply the kind of people France do not need so that is fair. We have enough xenophobes.
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