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American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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No, it wouldn't be better. Because besides a sepsis issue a Chihuahua biting me isn't going to worry me one bit whereas a Pitbull biting me would be a serious problem even if it had just flossed and brushed.

I'm not arguing that a large dog bite vs a small dog bite is better or worse nor am I arguing that your opinion and risk tolerance is somehow invalid. I certainly wouldn't want to be bitten by any large breed dog. I've personally never seen an aggressive pit bull but I've seen aggressive mixed breeds and german shepherds. I don't think it would be reasonable for me to conclude based on my observations that no pit bul…

I've seen multiple instances of people being bitten by Pitbulls, also by Bull Terriers, which , while much smaller than Pitbulls are no less dangerous.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Let's skip the emotionally charged words like "evil". Do you believe some breads are more likely (statistically speaking) to kill a human than others?

I will never stop finding it hilarious how quickly progressives run to racial crime statistics and hold demographic breakdowns of violence sacrosanct when it comes to dogs breeds.

Progressives are against dog breed bans because of ^^^, which is absolutely wild to me.

Humans are different than dogs! Believe it or not!

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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No, it wouldn't be better. Because besides a sepsis issue a Chihuahua biting me isn't going to worry me one bit whereas a Pitbull biting me would be a serious problem even if it had just flossed and brushed.

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I think your incessant spamming of this thread with nonsense has more or less disqualified you from the discussion so forgive me if I won't respond to you 'just asking questions'.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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I just gave you a whole tonne in a different thread but I'm starting to suspect no amount of evidence will satisfy you.

Yes, that's what separates an opinion for a belief. You don't argue online to satisfy the other person, anyway - you do it for the silent 3rd party

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Unfortunately, I think this is going to be a cyclical game of whack-a-mole. Pitbulls were already banned, but they just renamed them to Staffies or American bully, and business continued as usual.

Really, this needs to be combined with a more blanket system of holding the dog owner responsible for the damage/'crimes' that their dogs commit. If your dog mauls someone, it should be treated the same as if the owner had done it themselves with their own hands -- including jail time and massive fines. Dogs should all be chipped (with unchipped dogs being subject to immediate seizure and potentially destruction) so owners would be less inclined to maul-and-run.

After all, one of the favourite arguments made by bully-breed supporters is that it's not the breed, it's the owners. I say fine, lets hold the owners appropriately responsible for their dog, for all breeds.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Unfortunately, I think this is going to be a cyclical game of whack-a-mole. Pitbulls were already banned, but they just renamed them to Staffies or American bully, and business continued as usual. Really, this needs to be combined with a more blanket system of holding the dog owner responsible for the damage/'crimes' that their dogs commit. If your dog mauls someone, it should be treated the same as if the owner had…

Not just the owners: also the breeders. Once the remedies against the owners are exhausted breeders should be held responsible for each and every dog they send out into the world.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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I find it odd so many people support pitbulls, they're obviously more socially driven with this opinion than job/task driven... Pitbulls were originally bred for bull baiting and dog fighting. Dogs have instinctual purpose. Social justice keyboard warriors will overlook this and think the common person can own a pitbull and they are a product of their environment... not nature. lol

I love dogs. There is no way I'd want a Pitbull or close relative. As a kid my dad took in a Bull Terrier, a relatively small but absolutely ferocious dog. We were pretty good buddies and I owe at least one count of 'not being beaten up' to that dog (I was mobbed in an Amsterdam park while walking the dog). Even so I would never want one or an even larger breed from the same family. I've seen what she could do and how quickly she could go from the world's nicest pet to absolute killer mode. Animals like that should not be held in society. I've also had an Irish Wolfhound and even though it too was fiercely protective of us and children I would have absolutely no problem trusting her.

Dog breeds have built-in character. Hunting dogs are on a different plane than fighting dogs and just like you don't bring a drugged up cage fighter into your home you shouldn't bring a fighting dog into your home. They simply do not belong there. The people that have these dogs usually just have them to show off, they don't understand the first thing about dog training/rearing and will happily put the dog in extremely dangerous situations without thinking twice about it. Many such owners end up being mangled by their own dogs.

There are other dogs that are on my 'would not have' list, either because I don't see the dog as suitable for living in a home with people or because the dog has a disposition that makes it a ticking time bomb. Where to draw the line is tricky, any dog if sufficiently pissed off is going to attack. But small dogs will likely not do a while lot of damage (unless you are a small child) and most dogs tend to require a lot of pushing before they get angry and as a rule they'll give plenty of warning.

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