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New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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morby wrote: post #5
morby wrote: post #4

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I would probably add some major points to this synopsis. The bullet was believed to have been on Connally’s stretcher. It is the “magic bullet”. The pristine bullet that was supposed to have hit JFK and Connally both. The assumption here is that it did not penetrate through JFK. That it came from the wound in his back. This would upend the investigative findings that the bullet in this back was responsible for the ne…

To add to that. The author details how this new detail subsequently alters the version of events. Namely it suggests that the bullet that hit JFK in the back and hit Connally were two different bullets and that they could not have been fired at that rate (the rate suggested by the video evidence) with the weapon used by Oswald

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Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Post by cmmeur01 »

bluGill wrote: post #17
rusk wrote: post #10

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> Occam's Razor says it was Oswald I think it doesn’t. That’s why the story has never come to rest, there’s simply too many question marks about the whole thing

What open questions? He clearly had access to the place where the shots were fired, and knew how to use a gun. The shot was not particularly difficult.

Crazy how a bunch of CIA connected people got him that job giving him that access, probably nothing.

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Post by throw_m239339 »

notorandit wrote: post #36

It sounds as silly as precisely identifying and numbering who killed Caesar. Those murders changed the history. Just like those non-murders would have done. History took its turns back then. Knowing the precise identity and number of killers won't give any extra useful detail. IMHO.

> Knowing the precise identity and number of killers won't give any extra useful detail.

Yes it does matter, if the official story established by the Warren commission is not true, it does matter to know why was Kennedy assassinated and by whom exactly, because Kennedy's death has had so many worldwide implications, that this isn't even just about USA.

If that story is ever debunked one day, factually, it will change the future of the USA. If the government lied about all that, then what other things the US government lied about? It will shake the very foundations of that country. It's literally the definition of a smoking gun, no pun.

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Post by gonzo41 »

becquerel wrote: post #15
kikokikokiko wrote: post #11

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Occam's Razor says that the guy framed to be the fall guy on this literal world changing event was killed mere ours after the fact on live television, "ending the story". It's amazing that people in 2023 can be just as accepting of the mainstream narrative as the average joes in the 60s, that were subjected to a top down narrative decided by the powers that be using 3 TV channels and 2 newspapers.

How did killing Oswald end the story? You bringing it up proves that it only inflamed the issue and made it more attractive to conspiratorial readings!

It removed the ability for there to be a different narrative. Either Oswald was a lone gunman, or you're a crazy person and believe in conspiracy's.

Read up on Allen Dulles.

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Post by mongol »

neom wrote: post #20
morby wrote: post #9

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It’s an amazing bit of history. Leaders of major powers have regularly been assassinated in history. Here the leader of a globally hegemonic nation was assassinated on camera.

Google tells me the number of leaders/former leaders assassinations in recent history that have been caught on camera is indeed very low. Kennedy, Gaddafi, Shinzo Abe, Benazir Bhutto, Yitzhak Rabin, Rajiv Gandhi, Anwar Sadat.

So Kennedy was the first one even

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Post by diogenes4 »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #29
morby wrote: post #9

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It’s an amazing bit of history. Leaders of major powers have regularly been assassinated in history. Here the leader of a globally hegemonic nation was assassinated on camera.

> It’s an amazing bit of history. Sure, it's the obsessing over conspiracy theories that I don't get. There's no way to verify the various speculations, so what's the point?

There's no way (for most of us with finite resources) to verify the vast majority of history, even recent history, even history that happened today. To me this is like saying "who cares what may or may not have happened in the past".

This particular conspiracy theory is interesting because the assumed enemy here—the Soviet Union—was ostensibly (and seeming authentically) unhappy to see this happen. So who wanted JFK dead and why?

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Post by rusk »

bluGill wrote: post #17
rusk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Occam's Razor says it was Oswald I think it doesn’t. That’s why the story has never come to rest, there’s simply too many question marks about the whole thing

What open questions? He clearly had access to the place where the shots were fired, and knew how to use a gun. The shot was not particularly difficult.

As a wise man once said: ”Back and to the left”

Also, was Oswald’s own assassination at the hands of a mob figure ever satisfactorily explained?

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Post by rusk »

gordian-not wrote: post #38
bluGill wrote: post #17

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What open questions? He clearly had access to the place where the shots were fired, and knew how to use a gun. The shot was not particularly difficult.

I completely agree with you that it was Oswald but the weird parts of this story are: 1. Oswald defection from the army and time in the Soviet Union 2. Oswald going to the Cuban and Soviet embassies before the murder (possibly starting a third world war) 3. The subsequent assassination of Oswald This can be mostly explained by a mental disorder but it is still a messed up story

> This can be mostly explained by a mental disorder

Kinda like the Reichstag fire huh

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Post by neom »

mongol wrote: post #46
neom wrote: post #20

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Google tells me the number of leaders/former leaders assassinations in recent history that have been caught on camera is indeed very low. Kennedy, Gaddafi, Shinzo Abe, Benazir Bhutto, Yitzhak Rabin, Rajiv Gandhi, Anwar Sadat.

So Kennedy was the first one even

No, there were a few (iirc 2) prior but I started at Kennedy because the thread is about him, hence recent history.
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