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Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
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Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would the Russian gas situation have done that? The natural gas from Russia was used for power plant generation, and electricity prices skyrocketed, since Germany doesn't have its own sustainable electric supply. Norway on the other hand has more oil than it could ever use, as well as hydropower.
> Why would the Russian gas situation have done that? Because the countries are realizing how relying on foreign oil and gas makes them vulnerable. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/how-t...
I think we realized that half a century ago in the 1970’s
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970s_energy_crisis
But hey, feel free to make it up as you go. Most of the time people won’t call you on it.
I’m not a Donald Trump fan so I won’t be posting his warning about depending on Russian gas.
So, please don’t insult us with statements that are clearly silly:
“Because the countries are realizing how relying on foreign oil and gas makes them vulnerable.”
Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you watched the video I linked, you would find every point you just made here dismantled.
I have seen this video and in the examples he gives they clear the bike paths. Where I live when it snows it’s just impossible to bike. In heavy snow it’s like biking on the sand. And sometimes when the temperatures fluctuate there is black ice I have to worry about. Some bike paths get salted but not all so it’s not a safe continuous ride at least for my commute.
> And sometimes when the temperatures fluctuate there is black ice I have to worry about. Some bike paths get salted but not all so it’s not a safe continuous ride at least for my commute.
there exist winter tyres for bikes, that have spikes - ideal for ice
Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
#44I can’t even imagine that here where I live. My neighbourhood has sidewalks, which is nice because all the adjacent ones don’t. To go downtown in this little town in winter you have to risk a treacherous steep hill covered in ice and snow that never gets cleared and it’s actually dangerous
Yes, it's amazing how bike advocates view the world as a homogenous place. Where I live it's 90 degrees or higher, and humid in the summer, and can be sub-zero in the winter. It's also quite hilly -- flat and level riding is the exception. I'm not riding a bike any substantial distance in those conditions, regardless of paths or lanes.
welcome to (southern) Germany, I recommend you a bike with electric assist and you will be fine
Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
#45I can’t even imagine that here where I live. My neighbourhood has sidewalks, which is nice because all the adjacent ones don’t. To go downtown in this little town in winter you have to risk a treacherous steep hill covered in ice and snow that never gets cleared and it’s actually dangerous
Yes, it's amazing how bike advocates view the world as a homogenous place. Where I live it's 90 degrees or higher, and humid in the summer, and can be sub-zero in the winter. It's also quite hilly -- flat and level riding is the exception. I'm not riding a bike any substantial distance in those conditions, regardless of paths or lanes.
This isn't a problem with biking in Finland in the winter.
Bike lanes are plowed and/or compacted multiple times a day during heavy snowfall. Albeit it isn't really that hilly but more than weather, the main constraint is having a city willing to actually maintain biking infrastructure.
Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
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Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
#47Fantastic news! EVs already have escape velocity in Norway to replace ICE cars, and incentivizing more walking and cycling not only promotes more efficient modes of short distance travel, but makes the population healthier. Over reliance on cars kills us slowly via lifestyle degradation.
At least in the article, I didn't see anything mentioned about incentivizing cycling or walking (or infrastructure investments to support them). They're simply reducing subsidies to EVs, which will only be slightly less heavily subsidized compared to ICE vehicles. Anyone from Norway know what they're doing for walking and cycling that isn't in the article?
> Norwegian Transport Minister Jon-Ivar Nygard said in the statement:
> "Electric cars give us greener transport, but they also have a clear intermodal competition with public transport in urban areas. We must make it more attractive to travel by public transport, cycle, and walk."
I don't find that statement anywhere though, but that's from the article. I think that means they're working on doing something about it, but haven't reached any proposals yet.
Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
#48its great that they're incentivising public transport. Does anyone have any numbers comparing carbon emissions from a population using green public transport vs using electric cars vs using gasoline cars?
Apart from this transitionary period where we still use fossil fuels to produce EVs, it's going to be 0 eventually.
Re: Norway rolls back EV incentives while boosting walking and cycling (2022)
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why would the Russian gas situation have done that? Because the countries are realizing how relying on foreign oil and gas makes them vulnerable. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/how-t...
I think we realized that half a century ago in the 1970’s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970s_energy_crisis But hey, feel free to make it up as you go. Most of the time people won’t call you on it. I’m not a Donald Trump fan so I won’t be posting his warning about depending on Russian gas. So, please don’t insult us with statements that are clearly silly: “Because the countries are realizing how relying on foreign…
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