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What OpenAI really wants

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Re: What OpenAI really wants

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mustafa_pasi wrote: post #19
swyx wrote: post #5

i highlighted this last night which seems to be making the rounds - https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1699369076529971545 Alec's CV ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/alecradford/ ) seems to be: - 2011-2016 BSc Eng from Olin College - 2013+ started a data/AI consultancy as a sophomore that turned into a vague startup/product? - 2015 first paper on GANs coauthored with soumith https://arxiv.org/pdf/1511.06434.pdf%C3 - 2016 f…

They all have crazy CVs. If you're really talented in the US you can get very far on talent alone. If he was in Germany he's be a Ph.d or Postdoc toiling in some outdated research field that nobody cares about. The CTO has an even crazier CV. Born in the poorest European country, BSc at Dartmond (is that considered a good uni? idk), internship at GS, a stint at Tesla, couple of startups and hits gold with OpenAi. A B…

> If you're really talented in the US you can get very far on talent alone

While this seems true, I wonder how much selection bias is involved here. I mean, we wouldn't know about talented people that kept failing, right?

Edit: since they failed, they must be dumb, right? No matter how many PhDs they have. (I am being sarcastic, ofc)

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blibble wrote: post #40

“It’s rare that an industry raises their hand and says, ‘We are going to be the end of humanity’—and then continues to work on the product with glee and alacrity.” OpenAI rejects this criticism. imagine that for humanity's sake I really hope that Altman is another Elizabeth Holmes

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Post by mustafa_pasi »

cushpush wrote: post #31
mustafa_pasi wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely, but it is not our only problem. We don't get those lucrative internships and neither do we get the boatloads of startup capital. It's all caused by the same risk averse mentality, though.

The "risk averse" mentality is insightful to me, attempting to comprehend what cultural differences my (European issue) parents engage the world with

Oh, it's definitely one of the most distinctive difference between US and Europe. Of course it is not all the same. Germans are on the more conservative side, while the Dutch are known to be more entrepreneurial. But overall none is on the same level as you Americans.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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Post by rmbyrro »

blibble wrote: post #40

“It’s rare that an industry raises their hand and says, ‘We are going to be the end of humanity’—and then continues to work on the product with glee and alacrity.” OpenAI rejects this criticism. imagine that for humanity's sake I really hope that Altman is another Elizabeth Holmes

It's because Salt Man doesn't believe it. He knows it's not the end of anything, it's the start of an insanely lucrative market.

What he really wants is to capture as much of this pie as he possibly can.

In order to do that, he needs a monopoly or olygopoly. To achieve it, he needs the state to regulate the market, I mean, "to save humanity".

That's why he's meeting with heads of state. And preaching the end of the world, so that the populace will support politicians' stupid regulatory proposals, carefully curated by Salt Man himself.

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Post by mustafa_pasi »

api wrote: post #35
swyx wrote: post #5

i highlighted this last night which seems to be making the rounds - https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1699369076529971545 Alec's CV ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/alecradford/ ) seems to be: - 2011-2016 BSc Eng from Olin College - 2013+ started a data/AI consultancy as a sophomore that turned into a vague startup/product? - 2015 first paper on GANs coauthored with soumith https://arxiv.org/pdf/1511.06434.pdf%C3 - 2016 f…

I am very happy to see an actual researcher and innovator get a significant piece of the proceeds from their work. This used to be a fairly rare event. The fact that it's becoming more common is a sign of progress.

Definitely. It is why I like to say that when it comes to the upper two quarters of income/wealth, there is way way way more upwards economic mobility in the US than in Europe.

Here in Germany it is very easy to go from broke to middle class if you are talented. But going from talented to rich is impossible. There is no access to capital so people fight over the few good paying corporate positions and even there you mostly get the position through nepotism.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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Post by smfugit »

"A Wealth of Information produces a Poverty of Attention" The real need is an efficient allocation of Attention. That has not been solved. And is far away from being solved if you pay attention to the kind of things people pay attention too today.

What is apparent is OpenAI is run by totally clueless mindlessly ambitious one dimensional buffoons.

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