Important topic, absolute garbage article. It's more fiction than facts and 1. on hn ofc because the headline sounded nice. I get the intention of exaggerated fiction and landing on what is happening now or before but that's propaganda 101...FUD at its best. Disgusting.
The boiling frog of digital freedom
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Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The Stallman movement failed Citation needed
How many applications, phones, computers do people use that are Stallman compliant?
But answering the “it failed”. Not really. It exists and is a choice on most license dropdowns and is a famous one.
People should really default to GPL rather than more permissive licenses and hot take… should also default to closed source. And make open source or non GPL a conscious choice.
The reason is GPL gives you more ability to commercialise since it gives you the copyright holder more of an edge over let’s say Amazon Inc who has decided to accept your license to bundle it with a cloud service and extend it. They are obliged to release their source code to their customers.
That Ballmer called it a cancer is a great accolade.
Close source as a default because it is a one way door publishing the code on the open web. So you are protecting your own interests. You owe the “open source community” nothing and should exploit your IP as much as anyone else, and use GPL to allow people to “fix the printer” if they need to.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#43This rather heavily begs the question what do we mean by "freedom"? We don't mean anonymity. Acting in secret is not freedom - acting openly and not being persecuted or prosecuted is freedom. The solution is what it is in real offline life. A regulated legal framework that allows most and limits little, a open dynamic culture that accepts diversity and constant change. If we are worried that digital freedom will be t…
It’s an important question because “digital freedom” tends to be code for “I want the Internet like how it was when I was younger”, and then throw in some stuff about jailbreaking iPhones or whatever for good measure.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#44We need a new philosophical movement for computer technology. The Stallman movement failed because it was not practical for business applications. At the end of the day, coders & hardware manufacturers need to eat just like accountants, plumbers and doctors. Technology can't rely 100% on altruism. What we need is something close to the Ethical standards of the Stallman movement, but also compatable with business owne…
> These philosophical ethical standards should also be ingrained into VC culture & corporate culture.
Won't happen. Money always wins and exploiting people on the side of selling (or giving for free) them some stuff is always going to bring in more cash than respecting their privacy.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, chrome and google in general are the first in line to cause problems. There are many browsers, many apps, many everything... you can switch whenever... but the DRM and attestation pushes with browsers (and mobile devices) means, that sure, you can use a different browser, but your bank, your streaming service, your newssite might not work unless you're using chrome with drm and hardware attestation. This is alr…
Then switch from these services while they are still only a few. Revenue is a language they understand. I never understood why anyone would even want a banking app though; there is nothing int can do that a website can't. The browser war can at least still be won or settled; mainstream apps are a lost cause outside the legal arena. Edit: and by switching i don't mean going to some tinfoil grayweb nonsense. Go to thei…
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then switch from these services while they are still only a few. Revenue is a language they understand. I never understood why anyone would even want a banking app though; there is nothing int can do that a website can't. The browser war can at least still be won or settled; mainstream apps are a lost cause outside the legal arena. Edit: and by switching i don't mean going to some tinfoil grayweb nonsense. Go to thei…
The banking system does not care. The banks don't need your money.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#47And it will keep getting worse as long as the majority of the population lack proper core values to oppose it.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#48We need a new philosophical movement for computer technology. The Stallman movement failed because it was not practical for business applications. At the end of the day, coders & hardware manufacturers need to eat just like accountants, plumbers and doctors. Technology can't rely 100% on altruism. What we need is something close to the Ethical standards of the Stallman movement, but also compatable with business owne…
The stuff you read on hn...
Seriously, you think it failed? I think it succeeded wildly beyond anything anybody imagined at the time, to the point that very large entities threw everything and the kitchensink at it to try to make it fail. Which exposed them for the criminals they were.
We don't need anything that is more compatible with 'business owners' than what we've got. What we need is education, so that people stop telling each other that the free software movement failed, but instead point out that without that free software movement the operating system, the browser and the applications on the computer that I'm writing this on would not exist.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#49I’m more concerned with the EUs assault on private communication than I am with this WEI stuff.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, chrome and google in general are the first in line to cause problems. There are many browsers, many apps, many everything... you can switch whenever... but the DRM and attestation pushes with browsers (and mobile devices) means, that sure, you can use a different browser, but your bank, your streaming service, your newssite might not work unless you're using chrome with drm and hardware attestation. This is alr…
Then switch from these services while they are still only a few. Revenue is a language they understand. I never understood why anyone would even want a banking app though; there is nothing int can do that a website can't. The browser war can at least still be won or settled; mainstream apps are a lost cause outside the legal arena. Edit: and by switching i don't mean going to some tinfoil grayweb nonsense. Go to thei…