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How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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alternative title: “how to cope with depression after a break up” by Conan O brien’s web guy

Agree with no beer and limited alcohol. That saved me 10 lbs without working out. However, if you cannot live without beer or some other sugary treat, prepare to do a lot of cardio. It’s more of a preventative measure though. I find using VR for cardio workouts help a lot to counter the monotony with a wide variety of video games. I constantly tell myself that I’m just playing a video game.

As others have wrote, intermittent fasting is really great for portion control and general health.

If you really want to lose weight, you can’t really avoid weight lifting or resistance training. I feel with AR this will also get gamified just like cardio. Apple fitness helps with this, but I think there is now an AR Quest app that focuses on weights too

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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1. eat once a day 2. skip one day a week 3. skip 7 days twice a year 4. eat real food

This is a terrible list of suggestions.

Get a calorie counting app. I use Waistline which is open source.

Actually use it: enter everything. Find out the calorie values.

And then re-assess what you're eating after you have some actual data to work with.

There are plenty of metabolic rate calculators online: you don't need to be super accurate, you need to be consistent and follow the data (i.e. if you're still gaining weight then you're either not entering things into the app or you now know your BMR is lower than expected so you adjust accordingly).

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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It's against the HN guidelines to comment on whether someone read an article, but I find it interesting that nobody has yet commented on section 3 of the article, which, um, stands out, calls attention to itself. The elephant in the room, as it were.

Totally. It's a story about love and yet that's not the thing most people are responding to.

I notice this a lot. When I wrote a blog post about the Remarkable 2 recently and it ended up on HN, very few of the comments were about my article - instead they were all about other people's thoughts on the Remarkable. This is ok, of course, but it's interesting to me that this is often how it goes on here. I wonder if it's high levels of self-absorption in HN readers or just a more widespread thing online where people respond to headlines rather than in-depth articles.

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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it does not get better. I've seen enough to tell you that. It's the same stories on repeat, remixed, reheated and served on a different plate. You have the same three part course over and over and over and over again on the lazy susan of samsara. Fuck that! Patience and waiting for the good times is a young mans' game. When you're older, you know that the same way your joints are shittier now and they're never getting better and you need to take ibuprofen more and more, the same is happening with your life. There's no point in lying to yourself that you're going be happy in a year or two or ten, you just need to keep going and keeping patient and waiting and then it never happens and you die alone having shat yourself. Fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that. This is life. This is suffering. And this is fine. And the sooner we all lose this fucking delusion of hope, the sooner we all become enlightened and the sooner we can actually nonviolently cure this disease that's eating the planet.

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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Ozempic (semaglutide) indicates it's not about willpower or bodybuilding. Keto diets already indicated this.

That's silly, and a bit like saying "See, you didn't need to budget to get rid of your credit card debt. You just needed someone to give you a million dollars." I'm relatively fit and tried semaglutide for reasons other than weight loss. The "full" feeling you feel when on it is nothing like I've ever experienced in my life. It's a cheat. I'm not saying people shouldn't take it, but I'll forever fight the idea some p…

So. Two things I don't like about this.

1. The analogy in your first paragraph isn't right, it wouldn't be like someone giving you money, it would be like someone intercepting your pay, doing all your payments, and then giving you only a small fraction to spend with for the month.

2. I dislike this "it's a cheat" thing. It makes it sound like it's easy on semaglutide. Which as someone who's been on it for a year or so... I can tell you. It's not easy. So when people say it's easy or a cheat or whatever. It diminishes the reasons why people are on it. It also makes the assumption that the people who are on it, didn't do anything else first. They just jumped straight onto the meds, diminishing their struggles before it.

I had tremendous problems losing weight, I'm a runner, I put in about 50km running each week, I would fight myself to not eat. I refused to drink, because that would lead to eating. I lived a miserable life. But more importantly my knees were getting damaged by the weight. So in the last year I lost the weight, because the one thing I couldn't fight with just willpower alone (eating), was suddenly far easier to fight.

That full feeling. That's one thing it does (which diminishes over time btw). The other thing it does is it totally removes the constant "what am I going to eat" thoughts in my head.

Imagine waking up, and you're already planning lunch, you skip breakfast to eat less calories. So when lunch comes, and something gets in the way of you eating.. you get furious. Same with dinner.. the whole day is consumed by thoughts of eating.

That's now gone.

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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Just get on Ozempic.

I wouldn’t be so fast to downvote this. There is strong evidence that willpower is sometimes not enough, and if we have to provide a drug like we would for a brain chemistry or other chemical imbalance, we shouldn’t turn away from an appetite suppressant to solve for this. We simply need to drive the price down to make it less costly than all of the healthcare currently going into second order effects of broad popula…

I think the fact that millions of people want (and try) to lose weight, but fail, over and over again, is 100% proof that will power does not matter in the slightest. These drugs like Wegovy, Ozempic, etc are showing everyone that we don't consciously control our appetite. Our bodies and our brains will betray us and take control despite whatever our desires may be. Hopefully people start to view obesity with more compassion and less blame on the people who have the disease.

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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I wouldn’t be so fast to downvote this. There is strong evidence that willpower is sometimes not enough, and if we have to provide a drug like we would for a brain chemistry or other chemical imbalance, we shouldn’t turn away from an appetite suppressant to solve for this. We simply need to drive the price down to make it less costly than all of the healthcare currently going into second order effects of broad popula…

I don't know much about this stuff, but could anyone explain why willpower isn't enough? Like - isn't this something that is in our control? Also - if you don't have the willpower to lose weight, wouldn't taking weight loss drugs put you at risk of relying on meds for everything? (Including stuff you might have the willpower for - now that you've tried meds, why would you ever do stuff the hard way?)

It's a chronic disease and there are many chronic diseases that are treated with permanent medication - diabetes, blood pressure, mental illness, HIV, to name a few. You can't will yourself to stop being obese any easier than you can will yourself to stop being depressed. We simply aren't consciously in control of our appetite or metabolism.

And it's worth remembering that obesity contributes to many other diseases and premature deaths. Treating it long term will prevent a lot of human misery and billions in healthcare costs down the road, even with the high price tag that it currently has.

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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post #44
post #11

It's against the HN guidelines to comment on whether someone read an article, but I find it interesting that nobody has yet commented on section 3 of the article, which, um, stands out, calls attention to itself. The elephant in the room, as it were.

Totally. It's a story about love and yet that's not the thing most people are responding to. I notice this a lot. When I wrote a blog post about the Remarkable 2 recently and it ended up on HN, very few of the comments were about my article - instead they were all about other people's thoughts on the Remarkable. This is ok, of course, but it's interesting to me that this is often how it goes on here. I wonder if it's…

It's normal, and it's not even an online thing - it's an actual well-known phenomenon with newspapers. Most people read only headlines, be them online or on paper, and then react to them. They used to react while at a cafe or club, now we do it here.

Re: How to lose weight in 4 easy steps (2015)

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post #44
post #11

It's against the HN guidelines to comment on whether someone read an article, but I find it interesting that nobody has yet commented on section 3 of the article, which, um, stands out, calls attention to itself. The elephant in the room, as it were.

Totally. It's a story about love and yet that's not the thing most people are responding to. I notice this a lot. When I wrote a blog post about the Remarkable 2 recently and it ended up on HN, very few of the comments were about my article - instead they were all about other people's thoughts on the Remarkable. This is ok, of course, but it's interesting to me that this is often how it goes on here. I wonder if it's…

Like the Simpsons episode when Abe goes to learn how to eat an orange.

People don't care about the love story just say how to lose weight haha

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