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Re: Verifying your identity on Twitter will require taking a selfie

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter/X needs the money from checkmarks more then anyone needs checkmarks.

What is the term for when the later party doesn't realize this? (While the former presumably does.)

opportunity

Re: Verifying your identity on Twitter will require taking a selfie

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post #5

Elon's doing so many things that will gut Twitter/X. When he gives up trying, what lessons will he learn? This is my breaking point. I will not give up anonymity on this platform.

IMO Twitter would be long backrupt if it wasn't for the idiot investors that loaned Elon all that money. They are so deep in the shit they are doing everything to keep this house of cards from collapsing and wiping them out in hopes of some miracle that Elon can turn this thing into a cash cow down the road.

Re: Verifying your identity on Twitter will require taking a selfie

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If the entire point of verification is verifying one's identity, I do not see why requiring a photograph and government identification is a problem. That's the only reasonable way of proving someone's identity.

The question of whether the use of "Israeli software" (whatever it is specifically; too broad to make any useful comment) is appropriate is up for debate, but the fundamental act of verifying identity based off government identification is reasonable.

Besides, if you don't like it you don't have to get verified nor use the service for that matter.

Re: Verifying your identity on Twitter will require taking a selfie

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stripe Identity does it for $1.50/proofing request. Not sure what ID.me charges (what Login.gov is pushing out across the federal agency fleet). If you fake it, of course the recourse is the legal system for identity fraud.

> [T]he recourse is the legal system for identity fraud. Is it though? Are there sets of federal or state laws [in the United States] that say you must never misrepresent your identity to a private party (X) if they ask for it? Wouldn't their recourse just be their ToS? What if a retail store clerk asked you when buying toothpaste? I suppose the law would probably be around the fake identities themselves? (e.g. creat…

Here's the Illinois state statute:

720 ILCS 5/16-30)

    Sec. 16-30. Identity theft; aggravated identity theft.

    (a) A person commits identity theft when he or she knowingly:

        (1) uses any personal identifying information or personal identification document of another person to fraudulently obtain credit, money, goods, services, or other property;
I've known dozens of people who went to jail for this, but only when they obtained money, not for services, but the statute is clear.

Re: Verifying your identity on Twitter will require taking a selfie

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post #47

If the entire point of verification is verifying one's identity , I do not see why requiring a photograph and government identification is a problem. That's the only reasonable way of proving someone's identity. The question of whether the use of "Israeli software" (whatever it is specifically; too broad to make any useful comment) is appropriate is up for debate, but the fundamental act of verifying identity based o…

> I do not see why requiring a photograph and government identification is a problem.

It’s a problem for services which have little need for that kind of (intermediate level) verification, because it increases the threat surface for identity theft that can be used againt the kind of services that actually do need it.

It’s also, on the other hand, a problem for services which need actually need strong identity verification, because while government IDs do generally have security features, they are generally not secure for use via a photograph.

Re: Verifying your identity on Twitter will require taking a selfie

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [T]he recourse is the legal system for identity fraud. Is it though? Are there sets of federal or state laws [in the United States] that say you must never misrepresent your identity to a private party (X) if they ask for it? Wouldn't their recourse just be their ToS? What if a retail store clerk asked you when buying toothpaste? I suppose the law would probably be around the fake identities themselves? (e.g. creat…

Here's the Illinois state statute: 720 ILCS 5/16-30) Sec. 16-30. Identity theft; aggravated identity theft. (a) A person commits identity theft when he or she knowingly: (1) uses any personal identifying information or personal identification document of another person to fraudulently obtain credit, money, goods, services, or other property; I've known dozens of people who went to jail for this, but only when they ob…

Thanks for providing that. The section you include seems particular to using another person's existing identity, rather than generating / crafting a new one from thin air that isn't you or anyone else, which is what I think the ultimate parent was referring to:

> Nowadays, you could autogenerate both, and it's way more expensive to check the [id] than to generate one

This section seems the most relevant (?):

        (5) uses, transfers, or possesses document-making implements to produce false identification or false documents with knowledge that they will be used by the person or another to commit any felony;
..but what if your intent is not for committing a felony, but simply such that X doesn't have your government-issued identification?
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