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Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by caturopath »

bdowling wrote: post #7

> “If you want to use images produced by Human Generator in commercial projects, contact us.” If there is no copyright in AI-generated images, then how can they possibly enforce this?

> If there is no copyright in AI-generated images, then how can they possibly enforce this?

We don't have precedent here. Whether a person using a website with a generative AI tool counts as having a non-human creator isn't clear, and it seems to me like the answer is that it does have a human creator. Using a horse-hair brush to paint a painting doesn't mean that the painting was created by a horse and isn't subject to copyright. We'll have to find out eventually whether over a dozen settings, some with a gazillion options, and multiple freeform inputs counts as 'not created by a human'.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

gwern wrote: post #9

If you're wondering how it's so fast and cheap and they can generate variants so easily, it's because they're using GANs (see the footer). GANs are way faster than diffusion models because they generate the image in a single forward pass and their true latent space encoding makes editing a breeze. (And if you're wondering how it can look so good when 'everyone knows GANs don't work because they're too unstable', a wi…

There was a whole community around ESRGAN img2img finetuning kinda like Stable Diffusion LORA community... albeit a much, much smaller one.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by Planktonne »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #23
Planktonne wrote: post #6

We know about all of the potential harms that deepfakes can cause, the problems with inherent bias in training data, etc. Creating/publicising a tool that winks at these issues (consider the difference between the poses offered for 'male' and 'female' bodies) but does nothing to mitigate them - and a lot to enable them - is irresponsible at best.

It would be quite hard to make any AI tool that preemptively avoids the wide range of potential issues that you've mentioned. If tool makers are forced to always err on the side of caution, it's likely that the resulting tool ends up disappointing. Only when published, and when put into context of the entire work, could a creation deemed harmful. A tool should not, for example, prevent you from making a bunch of imag…

Just because it's hard to make a tool that can't be used in negative ways doesn't mean that it's a good idea to make a tool that (charitably) makes specifically negative uses easy and (uncharitably) is deliberately designed for them.

Tool makes do err on the side of caution all the time - we **** out passwords so users don't share them as easily, we put safety catches in secateurs. "Build in safeguards against the obvious issues" is a basic design step.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by notpachet »

sudobash1 wrote: post #14
bdowling wrote: post #7

> “If you want to use images produced by Human Generator in commercial projects, contact us.” If there is no copyright in AI-generated images, then how can they possibly enforce this?

There are still terms of use, which can dictate how you are allowed to use a website. And there are watermarks in the corners.

We can probably AI those out.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by ramoz »

the8472 wrote: post #37
ramoz wrote: post #27

NSFW

quite the opposite. I get a lot of the outputs filtered without any NSFW prompting. > We detected that generated image contains nude content. Try changing parameters.

Not _quite_ the opposite.

I clicked the female generation, and got a porn model posing nude. Without any provided guidance other than the clickable buttons.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by colinrand »

What I find sketchy is that it is not easy to find out who is behind this service. The norm is an about us or a link to a parent site. Briefly skimmed the legalese (ToS & Privacy) and still not clear who these people or where they operate from. The linkedin link shows 8 people working there, mostly in BD from outside the US.

I don't think there is a nefarious purpose going on, i.e. getting people to sign up and stealing their info or payments, etc. However, it contributes to the erosion of trust on the internet. You're no longer sure if you're talking to a real dog in pajamas online or an AI pretending to be one.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by notpachet »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #23
Planktonne wrote: post #6

We know about all of the potential harms that deepfakes can cause, the problems with inherent bias in training data, etc. Creating/publicising a tool that winks at these issues (consider the difference between the poses offered for 'male' and 'female' bodies) but does nothing to mitigate them - and a lot to enable them - is irresponsible at best.

It would be quite hard to make any AI tool that preemptively avoids the wide range of potential issues that you've mentioned. If tool makers are forced to always err on the side of caution, it's likely that the resulting tool ends up disappointing. Only when published, and when put into context of the entire work, could a creation deemed harmful. A tool should not, for example, prevent you from making a bunch of imag…

> If tool makers are forced to always err on the side of caution, it's likely that the resulting tool ends up disappointing

I don't disagree with you entirely, but I still have the feeling like this will make a pretty good epitaph for humanity some day.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by lacoolj »

gwern wrote: post #9

If you're wondering how it's so fast and cheap and they can generate variants so easily, it's because they're using GANs (see the footer). GANs are way faster than diffusion models because they generate the image in a single forward pass and their true latent space encoding makes editing a breeze. (And if you're wondering how it can look so good when 'everyone knows GANs don't work because they're too unstable', a wi…

maybe it was fast 58 minutes ago but apparently it is now at peak capacity. even if you don't get rejected, a new image takes minutes

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by wredue »

caturopath wrote: post #41
bdowling wrote: post #7

> “If you want to use images produced by Human Generator in commercial projects, contact us.” If there is no copyright in AI-generated images, then how can they possibly enforce this?

> If there is no copyright in AI-generated images, then how can they possibly enforce this? We don't have precedent here. Whether a person using a website with a generative AI tool counts as having a non-human creator isn't clear, and it seems to me like the answer is that it does have a human creator. Using a horse-hair brush to paint a painting doesn't mean that the painting was created by a horse and isn't subject…

Was there not just precedent set for this?

The horse hair example is nonsense. One might argue that artists take inspiration from other artists to make the argument that what the AI is doing is fine. But the ai is actually only capable of blending what it’s been trained on, whereas an artist is not similarly limited. And this is how the horse hair sample is stupid.

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