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Post by deergomoo »

I think there’s a lot of generational mismatch around this stuff, which I guess is to be expected when a sizeable portion of the people alive today grew up with nothing but a landline.

The biggest things I struggle with in my family is the older folks not seeing SMS as asynchronous communication. Just because I’ve had time to send a text, it doesn’t mean I’m free for a call, and it doesn’t mean that I’m going to be able to hold an ongoing conversation right this second.

At the risk of sounding misanthropic, I struggle with phone calls in general and find them to be a terrible distraction; not just for me but also for whoever I happen to be with at the time, as a shared activity means we both have to stop what we’re doing.

Sure I could just ignore the call, but at this point there are several members of my family who are at the age where an unprompted phone call could well be bad news. Then when I turns out to be for idle chit-chat in the middle of my work day I just end up feeling both irritated and guilty for feeling irritated.

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Post by cooper_ganglia »

LoganDark wrote: post #12
ams92 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is this a really problem? No it is not for a normal well adjusted person.

This comment comes off as claiming that neurodivergence is a bad thing.

This comment comes off as claiming that being neurodivergent and being well-adjusted are incompatible ideas.

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Post by mongol »

donatj wrote: post #26

> No. Nothing is an urgency. False. There needs to be a break through "this is actually an emergency" way to get through silent mode. My wife keeps her phone silent at all times and on two separate occasions I have had actual emergencies and been unable to reach her. (A car crash where my car was totaled and a separate medical emergency) It's actually infuriating.

I think I have seen a setting like that on my phone, but now I can't find it. Two calls in a row should break through, I think. At least for numbers in my phonebook

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Post by macNchz »

There's a big generational gap here, I think, between people who did and did not come of age during a time where telemarketing was a nascent industry and–when then the phone rang–you had no idea who it was, and they couldn't leave a message. Missing an important call in a situation where the person calling couldn't leave a message, and couldn't necessarily be reached if they were heading out, was a much bigger deal!

I'm 35 and grew up with answering machines, then email, texts, cell phones, and voicemail soon after. Phone calls have always sort of bugged me. My parents did not, and for them the phone ringing has always been kind of an urgent matter. Letting it ring, even in the middle of something, and despite the fact they'll get a message and be able to deal with it easily later, clearly bothers them.

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Post by dmonitor »

PrivateButts wrote: post #39

This has been a constant bit of friction between my wife and I. To me, the norms are: - Unscheduled calls are if it's an emergency or something that you need an answer to right now - Calling twice in a row is an emergency - SMS if it's important but not urgent - Discord chat if it's just casual messaging or pics This is how my family and everyone else I know communicate, but my wife. My wife will call me repeatedly t…

> Discord chat if it's just casual messaging or pics

It's interesting to me that discord has become a "default" for you. For my social group, discord is only used for people I only have an online presence with. If I want to do something IRL, I send an SMS or something.

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Post by 3np »

bbarn wrote: post #28

This starts off with "I chose..." and ends with "there should be a mandate" It's very easy for people who wear pants to live a life where their phone is never switched off of vibrate mode and lives in their pocket. They will never need a noisy phone, and this is how I life my life. My wife has pockets on about 10% of her clothes, and so typically her phone is in a purse, or on the table next to her. She will not noti…

Phone ringing is already banned in some places, like public transport in some countries. I guess OPs argument is to expand this to more public areas and that your wife wouldn't pick up phone calls there in the first place. If she wants to notice her text notifications when e.g. on the train or in the mall, she'd have to pick the phone out of her bag.

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Post by tomrod »

rolodato wrote: post #13

One disgusting trend I see with many phone apps is notification spam with no fine-grained option to disable them without potentially disabling transactional notifications. Ride-sharing and delivery apps are particularly annoying for this. I remember the time when phone OSes did not have notification categories but it’s not a useful feature if app developers don’t implement them.

Looking at you, Uber, and my once-a-month ride somehow equating to 10 UberEats notices per day.

Marketers -- you're on notice.

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Post by [deleted] »

donatj wrote: post #26

> No. Nothing is an urgency. False. There needs to be a break through "this is actually an emergency" way to get through silent mode. My wife keeps her phone silent at all times and on two separate occasions I have had actual emergencies and been unable to reach her. (A car crash where my car was totaled and a separate medical emergency) It's actually infuriating.

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