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Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

mtmail wrote: post #38
FrustratedMonky wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that is kind of insulting. Guess people don't realize there are many lengths of triathlons. Fulls and Halfs are typically done together with an extra lap or leg added in for the Full.

Not sure I understand the insult. The article mentioned the distances and called it half ironman (Ironman 70.3 might be more correct, but I think everybody calls that half anyway). Adding the word to the title doesn't make a huge difference to me "Two men die in Half Ironman Cork competition in Ireland"

Guess wording can be taken in different ways.

>"They were competing in a so-called half Ironman event".

This seemed to indicate it was a lesser event. "so-called". But maybe it was just referring to a type of event. And it was just poor grammar?

Who knows, maybe it was GPT producing the text?

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by duskwuff »

jliptzin wrote: post #35
benatkin wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they took money that was intended to improve it? Especially for busy people? These two attempting the half Ironman were likely busy, ambitious people, because people who travel to another country for an endurance event tend to be. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12426285/Two-men-di... > Theranos may have been the worst-case scenario for the testing industry, but the big-picture idea — that testing sh…

I still don’t understand Theranos’s original value prop. Once you are already going in to have blood taken, what difference does it make whether it’s a small amount or a full test tube?

It was perhaps less about the actual value proposition and more about a promise that they'd developed some kind of revolutionary new medical testing processes (and not, you know, just running existing diagnostic tests with an inappropriately small sample).

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by mbroshi »

cinntaile wrote: post #37
ompto wrote: post #25

Video of the water conditions when going in: https://twitter.com/Levandov_1/status/1693384419208298899

Why are the participants doing that... Did they need this race to qualify or something?

There's an implicit assumption that the organizers would cancel the race if conditions are unsafe. E.g., when I go on a rollercoaster, I assume engineers have calculated the safety better than I could ever evaluate

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by Karellen »

m0llusk wrote: post #3

At least they died doing something they loved. Recently overheard a troubling conversation where a triathalon competitor observed a 60+ year old man clearly in major physical distress who refused any kind of assistance. It needs to be first of all understood that these are not necessarily tragedies so much as people taking things way too far and secondly considered that it might be best for everyone that they be allo…

Just because some people feel that way, I don't think it's right to project that attitude onto another person you don't know without any evidence that they actually do too.

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by dave84 »

elijaht wrote: post #33
benatkin wrote: post #9

This reminds me of Lebron James' son Bronny suffering cardiac arrest. Fortunately he survived. He's so young he may not have been screened properly. But a lot of people have difficulty affording to be screened. There are different types of screening and Theranos was going to help society with some of it, but of course we all know how that went, and it probably set back advances in screening with technology. Screening…

I don't really feel like Bronny James's story is relevant here- this was due to poor weather conditions, not any type of cardiac issue or lack of screening.

Some sources are reporting that one death is being investigated as a possible cardiac arrest, still a bit of a stretch.

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by benatkin »

dave84 wrote: post #45
elijaht wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really feel like Bronny James's story is relevant here- this was due to poor weather conditions, not any type of cardiac issue or lack of screening.

Some sources are reporting that one death is being investigated as a possible cardiac arrest, still a bit of a stretch.

It seems likely to me. The article didn't say anything about them drowning or colliding with another swimmer.

As for the weather, I can't judge from a couple videos. I have some experience but not with an Ironman. What I do know is that race organizers typically don't cancel just because the weather is going to make a race significantly harder.

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by cauthon »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #41
mtmail wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I understand the insult. The article mentioned the distances and called it half ironman (Ironman 70.3 might be more correct, but I think everybody calls that half anyway). Adding the word to the title doesn't make a huge difference to me "Two men die in Half Ironman Cork competition in Ireland"

Guess wording can be taken in different ways. >"They were competing in a so-called half Ironman event". This seemed to indicate it was a lesser event. "so-called". But maybe it was just referring to a type of event. And it was just poor grammar? Who knows, maybe it was GPT producing the text?

No, it's just pointing out the colloquialism.

"IRONMAN" and "IRONMAN 70.3" are the official names, even though "full" and "half" are how they're commonly referenced.

"so-called" isn't diminutive or derogatory

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Post by westcort »

version_five wrote: post #17
benatkin wrote: post #9

This reminds me of Lebron James' son Bronny suffering cardiac arrest. Fortunately he survived. He's so young he may not have been screened properly. But a lot of people have difficulty affording to be screened. There are different types of screening and Theranos was going to help society with some of it, but of course we all know how that went, and it probably set back advances in screening with technology. Screening…

Theranos was a criminal scam, the reference here is weird.

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