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Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by hongbo_zhang »

homarp wrote: post #2

"The development of an entire language toolchain, previously spanning years or even a decade, has been streamlined through our accrued experience and the establishment of a dedicated talented team from Moonbit's inception. We expect Moonbit to reach beta status by the end of Q2 of 2024, indicating a phase of relative stability, minimal bugs, and a robust Foreign Function Interface (FFI) for interactions with the Wasm…

The docs are available here: https://github.com/moonbitlang/moonbit-docs

You can also try our online IDE https://try.moonbitlang.com

Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by hongbo_zhang »

MarcScott wrote: post #33
hongbo_zhang wrote: post #30

Hi, I am the lead of this project, you can try it now with our online IDE, https://try.moonbitlang.com (F5 to run) The docs are available https://github.com/moonbitlang/moonbit-docs , the compiler would be publicly available when we reach the beta status (expected to be the end of Q2 in 2024). Feel free to ask me any question

Your docs at https://moonbitlang.com/docs/syntax/ are unreadable due to the text and background colour

Sorry, we are fixing that, should be better later

Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by hongbo_zhang »

pjmlp wrote: post #18

So why bother with this, when compared against AssemblyScript and Grain, both more mature and existing communities?

It depends on how you are measuring maturity.

Moonbit is indeed only developed for less than a year(very fast moving), but it already has a full working IDE, optimizing compiler, fast build system and experimental package manager. We have a dedicated team working on this with professional experience for over a decade, we expect we will reach the maturity on par with Rust in terms of Wasm experience in a couple of years.

Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by hongbo_zhang »

tgv wrote: post #40
hongbo_zhang wrote: post #30

Hi, I am the lead of this project, you can try it now with our online IDE, https://try.moonbitlang.com (F5 to run) The docs are available https://github.com/moonbitlang/moonbit-docs , the compiler would be publicly available when we reach the beta status (expected to be the end of Q2 in 2024). Feel free to ask me any question

I think people would like to know about licenses, pricing, and control over the project. Perhaps your commercial strategy doesn't benefit from divulging that information now, but secrecy and uncertainty can kill interest.

It is in an very early stage, but I expect it will be free to use as normal users. To be honest, we are also thinking about how to make the project more sustainable in the long term, the project is maintained by a team of professionals who also need be paid. We will figure this out when we reach the beta (in the end of Q2/2024)

Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by jwl4fun »

mijoharas wrote: post #21

I tried clicking through to find some syntax and got to this page[0] which seems to show things but the text is illegible on a dark background (something to do with picking up a dark mode setting on my device maybe?) [0] https://moonbitlang.com/docs/syntax/

Thanks for your feedback, the back background should works now.

Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by jwl4fun »

rapnie wrote: post #37
MarcScott wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your docs at https://moonbitlang.com/docs/syntax/ are unreadable due to the text and background colour

I may also point to the image on the announce page is 4.7 MB.

The image size should be smaller now, it's about 200k, thanks for your feedback :)

Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by sizediterable »

hongbo_zhang wrote: post #30

Hi, I am the lead of this project, you can try it now with our online IDE, https://try.moonbitlang.com (F5 to run) The docs are available https://github.com/moonbitlang/moonbit-docs , the compiler would be publicly available when we reach the beta status (expected to be the end of Q2 in 2024). Feel free to ask me any question

These are the usual questions I seek answers to first when seeing a new programming language:

  - What does writing asynchronous code look like
  - Will it have any novel or less mainstream features, e.g.
    - Algebraic effects [1]
    - Contexts/Capabilities [2]
    - Linear types [3]
  - Is the type system sound and does it support/need type casts
  - Does the language support interfaces/traits/protocols
  - How rich are generics, e.g.
    - Explicit variance annotations on type parameters
    - Lower or upper bound constraints on type parameters
    - Higher-kinded types
  - Is structural vs nominal subtyping more prevalent
  - Does it have algebraic data types? Generalized algebraic data types?
[1] https://v2.ocaml.org/manual/effects.html

[2] https://docs.hhvm.com/hack/contexts-and-capabilities/introdu...

[3] https://austral-lang.org/linear-types

Re: Moonbit: Fast, compact and user friendly language for WebAssembly

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Post by frou_dh »

noelwelsh wrote: post #12

I'm excited to see a modern GCed language that is targetting WASM. Closest comparison is probably Grain ( https://grain-lang.org/ ).

Apparently the Grain compiler is written in ReasonML rather than plain OCaml. Isn't it a bit comedic how readily these niche things are stacked up?
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