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Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by hamasho »

jraph wrote: post #8

Privacy aside if it's done server side, I think this crosses another dangerous line. With this, Google controls how content you read is summarized, they could introduce biases, intentionally or not, and I'm not sure we should trust such an actor for this.

It may be summarized to what they want, but it can be what I want too. All YouTube recommendations are already what I want to see. Videos from creators who share my world view, criticizing what I hate, and praising what I've already liked. If this Chrome's new feature is also personalized in this manner, I can read articles against my view and still get only what I want. My world view will become increasingly polarized, and it's already quite biased.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by alach11 »

I wonder how much they're projecting to spend on this? Or maybe they're prepared to eat a loss on this just to stay relevant in the face of Bing/Kagi/OpenAI?

Results from these models are orders of magnitude more expensive than traditional search. Maybe they have some benefits of scale where they can cache and serve up the same summaries to many people?

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by indymike »

This is where you start to sympathize with the news people in Canada who want google to pay for links. If google just summarizes at scale, interdicts the traffic and revenue, where's the incentive to create content?

This is a failure mode for the information economy.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by jedberg »

adamredwoods wrote: post #14

Articles are getting too long? Since when has this been a problem? I think it's the amount of crap ads injected while I'm trying to read the article that is the main problem.

Have you tried to find a recipe online? Every one comes with a life story because of SEO.

Ironically Google is the main cause of articles getting really long and full of fluff.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by konschubert »

I understand the worries about privacy and monopoly power.

But this doesn't change that this is a useful feature.

PS: That being said, I have started developing a distaste for google search. I have been served so much SPAM lately, that I am now starting to associate that search box with low-quality content.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by vittor1o »

I do believe contextual link previews help with overall browsing UX. I like how Wikipedia has a summary when you hover over a link. Where this summary comes from does matter.

For those who don't like when Google summarizes content for you but like the idea of getting a link preview with a summary provided by the website owner via meta tags before navigating to a third-party website - I've built a product called Linkz.ai [0] - that allows website owners to install link preview popups with 1 line of code.

[0] https://linkz.ai

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by Drakim »

hamasho wrote: post #41
jraph wrote: post #8

Privacy aside if it's done server side, I think this crosses another dangerous line. With this, Google controls how content you read is summarized, they could introduce biases, intentionally or not, and I'm not sure we should trust such an actor for this.

It may be summarized to what they want, but it can be what I want too. All YouTube recommendations are already what I want to see. Videos from creators who share my world view, criticizing what I hate, and praising what I've already liked. If this Chrome's new feature is also personalized in this manner, I can read articles against my view and still get only what I want. My world view will become increasingly polariz…

When I try to search up a topic on YouTube, the list of search results eventually STOP showing videos matching my criteria and instead show 10 videos in a row labeled "People also watched" that is unrelated to my search.

It's one thing to get recommendations in a place where recommendations are appropriate, and the dangers of the feedback loop you are talking about. It's another thing entirely to actively push it in other contexts.

"I know you are searching for programming topics, but might you be interested in this political outrage instead?"

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by gsatic »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #23

This sort of thing is why Canadian media wanted a cut of big tech profits. Imagine how harmful this is to websites that need to grow audiences, particularly news websites

Most news websites have a ton of duplicated content. That info overload is dying to be minimized.

And news orgs are going to keep coming under assault cause they perform a similar function to search engine robots by surfacing new info. As soon as some one copies that info, the value of the info is 0.

There is already data saying most content created is never consumed by anyone just cause of how much copying and duplication happens.

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