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Metallica hard-wires a different set list every night

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How did you determine nyt is being paid to promote the tour?

Because that's how it works. Having a different list of songs to play in each show is not newsworthy at all

That’s not how PR and newspapers tend to work together - it’s rare that it’s a paid arrangement. The PR company pitches a story on behalf of their client (band, stadium, etc) and perhaps offers interviews or quotes or whatever. If it’s paid, there will be a disclosure. Otherwise, it’s just the paper needing content to sit alongside their advertising.

(Wife worked in PR for a decade.)

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If you have any musician friends who are into metal, ask them what they think of Lars as a drummer. :)

I think much of the song arrangement is likely from Lars. There is a video somewhere of Hammett describing how he shared a riff for one of their songs and Lars said "play that but 3 times them end on that" or something to that effect. Live performances may not be super tight but it's OK because Hetfield is a better drummer (at least he keeps the rhythm)

For sure, the band is Lars and James. People like to hate on Lars and Hammett out of jealousy I guess, they’re both really successful in a genre that celebrates technical prowess, while not being technical players.

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Because that's how it works. Having a different list of songs to play in each show is not newsworthy at all

That’s not how PR and newspapers tend to work together - it’s rare that it’s a paid arrangement. The PR company pitches a story on behalf of their client (band, stadium, etc) and perhaps offers interviews or quotes or whatever. If it’s paid, there will be a disclosure. Otherwise, it’s just the paper needing content to sit alongside their advertising. (Wife worked in PR for a decade.)

I think this is what the OP meant, based on the essay he linked.

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It’s just that he’s technically not good, that’s all. Like he drifts with time and isn’t very precise. I think the band would sound better if he were more competent. The same could be said of Kirk’s solos; even though he’s performed some classic and memorable guitar parts, on the whole they’re pretty bland. I think for quite some time James and Jason were the best musicians in the band. Now Trujillo is far and away t…

There's something I don't understand. He's been a drummer for 40 years now. How can he still be "not good"?

Probably because he doesn’t dedicate himself to the craft. Musicians tend to get better with age, not worse.

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It’s just that he’s technically not good, that’s all. Like he drifts with time and isn’t very precise. I think the band would sound better if he were more competent. The same could be said of Kirk’s solos; even though he’s performed some classic and memorable guitar parts, on the whole they’re pretty bland. I think for quite some time James and Jason were the best musicians in the band. Now Trujillo is far and away t…

He's probably better than anyone in The Clash for example Technical prowess only goes so far, Metallica got where it got with him, and in the end it's a moot point Yeah maybe he's not the best drummer, but it was good enough to get them where they got

I think I made all of that pretty clear in my comment. I was just explaining the “bad drummer” meme.

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That’s not how PR and newspapers tend to work together - it’s rare that it’s a paid arrangement. The PR company pitches a story on behalf of their client (band, stadium, etc) and perhaps offers interviews or quotes or whatever. If it’s paid, there will be a disclosure. Otherwise, it’s just the paper needing content to sit alongside their advertising. (Wife worked in PR for a decade.)

I think this is what the OP meant, based on the essay he linked.

Yes exactly. If it was a direct payment they had to announce it. But it's corrupt payment and that's what pg's article is saying.

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> you play on the doughnut itself and then the fans are in the doughnut hole. And then, well, where do the drums go? Then the concept of the four drum kits — one drum kit in each of the four different directions — came up, and then it sort of went from there. Er, how does this work in a stadium? Some stadium concerts already have premium prices for the area closer to the stage, but the others can at least see the sam…

I mean, this is Metallica. Goes without saying.

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I think this is what the OP meant, based on the essay he linked.

Yes exactly. If it was a direct payment they had to announce it. But it's corrupt payment and that's what pg's article is saying.

That's a pretty heavy accusation to levy without a shred of evidence. The pg article doesn't describe direct payments either from what I read. It describes the symbiotic and borderline corrupt relationship but not money exchanging hands.
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