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Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by pixl97 »

dbg31415 wrote: post #33
rbanffy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. My home server has a couple dozen terabytes (on spinning metal) and, with current fill rate, it's predicted it'll need an increase in space only after two of the drives reach retirement according to SMART. It hosts multiple development VMs and stores backups for all computers in the house. Another aspect is that the total write lifetime is a multipl…

Oh look at Mr. “I pay legitimate streaming services for all my tv shows and movies” over there. (= I have a 12 TB NAS that is 99% full at the moment. Should I delete movies I may want to watch later, knowing full well they aren’t easily available on the streaming services I pay for? Ha. It fills fast!

The people streaming their data are just using someone else's SSD... at the end of the day all this data we generate and consume sits somewhere

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by janemydarling »

twerkmonsta wrote: post #3

Are there actual situations where you would even want this much data on a single drive?

OLAP/data analysis.

If I have a century’s worth of point-in-time data, and I want to quickly run various tests against it: data marshaling will kill my soul if I’m using an HDD or various incarnations of hot-cold disk schemes.

Granted, I’ll have to read it in 1TB “pages” since motherboard and RAM engineering haven’t gotten us very far.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by ipqk »

haunter wrote: post #37

I was looking for some 8TB m2 drives recently and they are still surprisingly expensive, considering you can get 2TB ones on sale for less than $100. But there are barely any options too, still a niche market https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#A=600...

Those $100 2TB drives are probably because of this: https://www.theverge.com/22291828/sandisk-extreme-pro-portab...

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by alphabetting »

lesuorac wrote: post #32
jaggederest wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I clearly remember getting an 80gb drive, circa 2001-2002 I think, and talking with my friends about how impossible it would be to ever fill.

The problem is that the size of media has been growing exponentially. When I keep wondering how my phone is running out of space every time its images / videos. Even when you look at an app that is like 400 MB its not 400 MB of code, its like 350 MB of images and 50 MB of code.

I laughed today when it was announced Buldar's Gate 3 is 120GB

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by jrockway »

twerkmonsta wrote: post #3

Are there actual situations where you would even want this much data on a single drive?

A drive these days is a CPU, memory, and some flash chips. If the CPU and memory are swappable (isn't in consumer SSDs, no idea about enterprise), then one drive today is really many independent pieces of storage media. Thus, you'd imagine the failure case to be more like the failure case for one entire storage server (pipe drips on it, tornado sucks it up) rather than worrying about the failure case for mechanically-linked hermetically-sealed platters spinning at high speed.

There is always the chance that all the flash chips fail at the same time because of a manufacturing defect. That has always been the gamble over multiple drives as well; many documented cases of all the drives in a RAID array failing at the same time. (This happened to me once! Terrible shipping from NewEgg damaged all 3 drives in my 3x RAID-1 array. I manually repaired them by RMA-ing the disks one at a time; fortunately different blocks failed on different drives and with 3 drives you could do a "best of 2".)

No matter how many independent drives you have, you will always need your data stored in multiple data centers to survive natural disasters. So I don't see 256TB in one device any differently than putting 32 8TB SSDs in one server. If you need that much storage, you spend less of your day plugging it into your computer. Savings!

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by rbanffy »

ipaddr wrote: post #31
rbanffy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. My home server has a couple dozen terabytes (on spinning metal) and, with current fill rate, it's predicted it'll need an increase in space only after two of the drives reach retirement according to SMART. It hosts multiple development VMs and stores backups for all computers in the house. Another aspect is that the total write lifetime is a multipl…

Once you start saving media or playing with ai models space goes quickly.

That's what the server is for.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by tbyehl »

dbg31415 wrote: post #33
rbanffy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. My home server has a couple dozen terabytes (on spinning metal) and, with current fill rate, it's predicted it'll need an increase in space only after two of the drives reach retirement according to SMART. It hosts multiple development VMs and stores backups for all computers in the house. Another aspect is that the total write lifetime is a multipl…

Oh look at Mr. “I pay legitimate streaming services for all my tv shows and movies” over there. (= I have a 12 TB NAS that is 99% full at the moment. Should I delete movies I may want to watch later, knowing full well they aren’t easily available on the streaming services I pay for? Ha. It fills fast!

Sounds like you need a bigger NAS. I throw a fresh 10TB drive in mine every 3-4 months.

Re: 256TB SSD from Samsung

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Post by xbkingx »

rbanffy wrote: post #25
nmcela wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am 100.0% sure this is what someone has said for 256GB drives, 256MB drives, 256KB drives, and the same person will be saying it for 256YB drives.

While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. My home server has a couple dozen terabytes (on spinning metal) and, with current fill rate, it's predicted it'll need an increase in space only after two of the drives reach retirement according to SMART. It hosts multiple development VMs and stores backups for all computers in the house. Another aspect is that the total write lifetime is a multipl…

Blu-rays can take up 25gb each, so just a decent collection of those could easily consume most of one of these drives. If you want to do basic model tuning in stable diffusion, each model variation can take 7gb. This level of storage would mean you could almost setup a versioning system for those. And finally, any work with uncompressed data, which can just be easier in general, could benefit from it.
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