I hate that it is becoming normalized to pay rent to use features on a car you bought.
I'm sure data is being sold, too.
GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
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Re: GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
#42Any car without CarPlay is dead to me.
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#43It's a battle of control of what information the consumer sees and the stream of what private information is pilfered back. Apple/Google have a deathgrip on smart phones by disallowing root, and automakers have taken note of the playbook. I used to say "in the future your car is unlikely to start start without wifi", but now that promise has come true, I'll just say "your fridge is unlikely to make ice without wifi".
> "in the future your car is unlikely to start start without wifi", but now that promise has come true Source?
Me
Re: GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is even worse than that - the CEO has this pipe dream that they are going to build a Netflix sized subscription business: https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/06/gm-aims-to-build-netflix-s...
> “Our research indicates that with the right mix of compelling offerings, customers are willing to spend $135 per month on average for products and services,” said Wexler. Assuming this is not a maintenance contract, who in their right mind will spend 135$ per month on "products and services" for their car?
The phrase "people with more money than sense" comes to mind.
Re: GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
#45> Instead of CarPlay or Android Auto, drivers will instead rely on the Escalade IQ’s included Google built-in infotainment software. It's called Android Automotive OS (not to be confused with Android Auto). Many OEMs are now using Android Automotive for infotainment, but also support CarPlay/AA. This is a terrible move, but GM is just trying to copy Tesla by controlling the entire UX and putting it some of it behind…
Darn. I got excited for a moment thinking that a major car manufacturer was selling a car that didn't have any infotainment features at all. Oh well.
With backup camera being mandatory, all cars are going to have a screen. If you have to have a screen anyway, might as well load it up with infotainment from strategic partners.
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#46To me it feels like GM realizes that Apple is commoditizing them. Making the car essentially a dumb-terminal for the Apple experience (as they want to do for other cars we well). GM now has a choice: (1) allow apple to make the GM car experience just like every manufacturer or (2) try to preserve some GM-ness in the experience. GM's actions seem logical to me. But there's no way in hell I'm ever buying a GM if they s…
The GM "interior experience" has always been poor, tough place to be in. Either commoditize that experience or double down on your own and hope you can pull off what the company has never been able to pull off.
Re: GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
#47Good! Hopefully it will have no touchscreen either, only tactile buttons.
Instead of just reading the headline and writing a one sentence response, you could have taken one second to click the article and you would have seen the massive touch screen it has.
I was being facetious, I of course read the "article" before commenting. Only the first paragraph was actually about this particular vehicle model, the others went on random tangents about GM/Tesla business direction and Apple sales data.
The large pillar-to-pillar screen is pretty cool but the text doesn't specify whether it's touch or not. Squinting at the image a bit, pretty obvious that it is. Same for the center console.
I suppose it's a given that all screens have to be touchable now. Such a drag, input challenge is dangerous when hurtling down the highway. Prefer to have physical controls I can grab onto.
Re: GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
#48It's a battle of control of what information the consumer sees and the stream of what private information is pilfered back. Apple/Google have a deathgrip on smart phones by disallowing root, and automakers have taken note of the playbook. I used to say "in the future your car is unlikely to start start without wifi", but now that promise has come true, I'll just say "your fridge is unlikely to make ice without wifi".
There is precedent of not being able to use some main oven features without wifi: https://www.consumerreports.org/appliances/do-you-need-wifi-...
Re: GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
#49Google. Snort. There’s zero chance this ends well. Maps will be fine, but Spotify, Tidal, MLB apps need to be available or your losing customers.
And no one is paying an extra subscription on their car for entertainment.
Re: GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
#50> Instead of CarPlay or Android Auto, drivers will instead rely on the Escalade IQ’s included Google built-in infotainment software. It's called Android Automotive OS (not to be confused with Android Auto). Many OEMs are now using Android Automotive for infotainment, but also support CarPlay/AA. This is a terrible move, but GM is just trying to copy Tesla by controlling the entire UX and putting it some of it behind…
Darn. I got excited for a moment thinking that a major car manufacturer was selling a car that didn't have any infotainment features at all. Oh well.
Why wouldn't you want any infotainment features? Surely it's a positive if done well.