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Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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> The capture of biometric data has become common in contexts of migration, where iris-scanning is a precondition to receiving humanitarian aid. In 2019, the United Nations World Food Program partnered with the firm Palantir to optimize these operations, which today affect 160 million people in 120 countries. Haha what in the hell

I am finding it increasingly difficult to take the world seriously.

What a joke.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Is it just me or does Worldcoin just seem like a massive ploy to get one's hands on a ton of biometric data? Scan your eyes and get $20 in funny money that may or may not be redeemable later. The coin will crash and burn like all the others leaving Sam with a treasure trove of biometrics data to do whatever he wants with.

The purpose of the scanning is to just have a different talking point so people will buy the coin. It is a scam like all the others. If they'd just launched it without scanning, would anybody be interested in buying it or even talking about it?

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To what end, though? I can't claim you are wrong, but I just don't see the benefit without resorting to ludicrous movie plots that largely don't hold up outside of entertainment value.

The entirety of "big data" is built on get data->???->profit. That's what's always been behind the push for ai, the hope that these ML programs can extract gold from the ocean.

Right, but most "big data" money is made from selling people tools to process data. Few seem to have any amazing use case that benefits from a ton of data. LLMs come to mind, but that is from a very different type of data, all told. Even medical data is only useful if you have a ton more data per person.

Iris identification is just not that useful? Even in movies, the goal is to get a high value target's iris to fake an entry. But, while entertaining in movies, this is not really a thing that makes any sense at a mass level. Is it?

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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This just moves the puck. No chance in hell this technology is not abused.

It moves the puck… to the United Nations. I fail to see the problem here.

The United Nations might not be as clear of corruption as you might think. If you've spent any time in the global public health apparatus, you probably know how bad it is (this is my exposure to UN initiatives). I don't think public health is special, and I'm sure most of the other UN-sponsored global projects have also had to line a lot of pockets.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Is it just me or does Worldcoin just seem like a massive ploy to get one's hands on a ton of biometric data? Scan your eyes and get $20 in funny money that may or may not be redeemable later. The coin will crash and burn like all the others leaving Sam with a treasure trove of biometrics data to do whatever he wants with.

The data on its own doesn't seem valuable. Having a "real human / really who they claim to be" authentication API that internet companies rely on for all sorts of things seems valuable. I assumed that was the goal, to create such a service.

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The problem being solved here is a single person taking an aid package several times for reselling. You can't solve everything, I guess?

This makes sense and is a really cool application of the technology.

It doesn't solve the issue of organised crime in those countries rounding up multiple people to get their aid package under duress to resell.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Wouldn't asymmetric cryptography be better suited for building proofs of identity for government transfers?

  you must allow a metallic sphere to look at you with its eye and generate a “personality test.” The proof is then associated with the QR code and the app becomes a passport called World ID.

  [...]

  Altman claims that the digital passports and wallets will be essential when general artificial intelligence (AI) has surpassed ours and unemployed humans need to receive a universal income.
What happens if the biometric information is stolen? Wouldn't that make it possible for another human or for AGI to impersonate someone, with no possibility of revoking the biometric proof of identity?

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Is it just me or does Worldcoin just seem like a massive ploy to get one's hands on a ton of biometric data? Scan your eyes and get $20 in funny money that may or may not be redeemable later. The coin will crash and burn like all the others leaving Sam with a treasure trove of biometrics data to do whatever he wants with.

I wonder if it's a ploy to either secure a monopoly on iris-scanning biometrics, or poison the market for everyone else?

Either they have a monopoly on it and it's all good (it's fine for them to have the data since they are verifier anyway), or if not, then it makes sure no other company can exist in this space since they have a massive database of high-resolution biometrics that could presumably allow to bypass any competitor's product, making it a non-starter.

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