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USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by londgine »

65a wrote: post #40
londgine wrote: post #28

I've had issues with my past 2 usb c phones. the female connector has a hidden male part in the phone. when you insert the cable incorrectly, it can damage that internal male part. it is much harder to replace that part then just getting a new cable. the lighting cable was a classic male connector to a classic female part

How do you "insert it incorrectly"? It's symmetrical and works in both possible orientations.

The correct orientation perpendicularly to the edge of the phone. No one gets exactly 90 deg. The more you are off, the more likely you are to break or wear down something. That something that breaks is in the phone, not in the cable.

Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by londgine »

pkulak wrote: post #35
deodar wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly right. Lightning is more resilient to damage. Lightning also puts the fragile part on the charger side and not in the device. Two of my USB-C devices developed loose connections after a year or so that replacing the charger wouldn't solve, a camera and a Windows laptop.

Wait, do you have those reversed? Lightning cables have zero moving parts. The clips and other bits and bobs are in the phone. USBC is reversed, so that, with USBC, most failures mean replacing the cable, not the phone.

Look inside the USB c port. Do you see a little bar sticking out, that is the breakable part

Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by DANmode »

londgine wrote: post #42
pkulak wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, do you have those reversed? Lightning cables have zero moving parts. The clips and other bits and bobs are in the phone. USBC is reversed, so that, with USBC, most failures mean replacing the cable, not the phone.

Look inside the USB c port. Do you see a little bar sticking out, that is the breakable part

Why haven't I ever had one break (since my first and last Samsung piece of junk in 2010)?

Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by DANmode »

jmye wrote: post #6

Now I can finally throw away all of those perfectly usable lightning cables and buy a horde of new USB-C cables that do absolutely nothing to improve my experience. Thanks for that, EU.

Now I can buy good white Bluetooth headphones without having to retool my entire home's power banking.

Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by IshKebab »

65a wrote: post #38
musicale wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Finally Besides the fact that USB-C didn't exist at the time, I can't see any reason for Apple developing Lightning in the first place. ;-)

USB-C has existed for almost a decade, ~2014.

Lightning has existed for over a decade, since 2012.

Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by musicale »

IshKebab wrote: post #45
65a wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-C has existed for almost a decade, ~2014.

Lightning has existed for over a decade, since 2012.

Indeed. Apple used the 30-pin dock connector for ~10 years and followed it up with Lightning for another ~10 years. USB-C came after lightning, and as I understand it Apple staff participated in the design and standardization process, being concerned with things like making the connector symmetric (like lightning) and being firm enough to not fall out but weak enough to yank out without sending your laptop crashing to the floor, and supporting high data rates/thunderbolt as well as high-power/fast charging.

My personal pet peeve with lightning is that the power pins seem to burn out after a while.

Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by IshKebab »

wpm wrote: post #37
jdlshore wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people have sexy friends that invite them to stay the night. Some people stay with family. Some people use their phones a lot and need to charge away from home. Some people have worn out batteries that don’t hold much charge.

I carry an external battery and a cable when I know I’m gonna be gone long enough that my phone dying is a remote possibility.

I don't think anybody is saying that there are no people without friends, or people that have weird cable/battery obsessions. They're just a small minority so it doesn't make sense to make laws cater to just them.

Re: USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15

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Post by musicale »

wapeety wrote: post #46

They have been "forced" by EU (yay, fxck non standard connectors) but in the article seems like Apple made this choice to "upgrade" the functionalities of their products...

I have four USB C ports on my 2016 MacBook Pro, which also charges via USB C.

Hasn't the iPad Pro also used USB C since 2018? I think the iPhone and a few accessories like keyboards and trackpads are the last gasp of Lightning (which admittedly was a pretty effective replacement for the 30-pin dock connector that Apple used from 2003-2012.)

Though personally I'm surprised that Apple didn't decide to dodge the EU ruling by welding a USB C dongle to every EU iPhone. ;-)

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