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Re: Jim Keller and his pioneering work on chip design and architecture

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Does anyone have any insight into how hes managed to get such high profile guests?

I would imagine being extremely good friends with Joe Rogan helps immensely.

He had guests more famous than Rogan before ever going on JRE.

Steven Pinker and Eric Schmidt were in the first ten guests and Elon Musk wasn’t long after. I’m sure Rogan got him more high profile cage fighters and that type of guest, though.

Re: Jim Keller and his pioneering work on chip design and architecture

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This sounds like something Elon musk would do to Tesla just to save $8 on parts

> just to save $8 on parts I don't think you understand what $8 per vehicle represents in cost savings. $8 in parts can literally be 10s of million in savings per year. And then you are basically tied to this supplier forever as switching something so fundamental isn't easy. In automotive, using less screws to save 50c on each vehicle is considered a big win.

I remember in the mid '70s looking under the hood of my family's enormous station wagon and being greeted by a solid surface of hoses and valves, all dedicated to meeting the recently-boosted emissions standards. Open an internal-combustion hood now, and it's much, much simpler.

Re: Jim Keller and his pioneering work on chip design and architecture

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How was Keller able to pull off so much impactful work over so many organizations? i.e. what proportion of his impact was attributable to novel ideas, solo engineering implementation ability, engineering leadership, or just darn good timing?

You should see his interviews with Dr. Ian Cutress. The man basically knows everything in the industry in and out and knows how to create great teams. I want to interview for Tenstorrent at some point and would love to work for him. I feel being part of great teams is what he has been fortunate with. People very easily forget the rest of the team in chip design and make it about one person. I feel he's a true leader…

People like this are extremely rare and talented, AND they are able to build amazing teams.

Other super talented people want to work with a Jim Keller. So a company hires a Jim Keller not just because you want his brain, but because you can then go to the next 20 amazing people in the industry and say "come work on Jim Keller's team" – now you have 20 min Jim Kellers on your team and that is enough to move mountains in an extremely specialized field such as chip design.

Re: Jim Keller and his pioneering work on chip design and architecture

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How was Keller able to pull off so much impactful work over so many organizations? i.e. what proportion of his impact was attributable to novel ideas, solo engineering implementation ability, engineering leadership, or just darn good timing?

You should see his interviews with Dr. Ian Cutress. The man basically knows everything in the industry in and out and knows how to create great teams. I want to interview for Tenstorrent at some point and would love to work for him. I feel being part of great teams is what he has been fortunate with. People very easily forget the rest of the team in chip design and make it about one person. I feel he's a true leader…

The cult of personality is always an enticing idea, it's pretty much certain that Jim Keller had a stellar team to work with in all of those places.

That being said, even a strong team is still usually only as good as its leadership. You can have all the great ideas in the world, but if the organisation does not allow you to pursue them (or on the other extreme, allows everyone to work on what they think is best) you will still fail to execute.

At the end of the day you need someone to make the correct decisions every step of the way.

Re: Jim Keller and his pioneering work on chip design and architecture

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To address the article, this will be very interesting because in the market Tensortorrent is targetting the real challenge is software support for PyTorch, TensorFlow, distributed training, etc... and less about the hardware itself. It's not like AMD GPUs can't do matrix multiplications at competitive TFLOPS but instead that if I wanted to use them to run a model I'd have to work through several workarounds to get similar performance to an Nvidia GPU that is mostly plug-and-play.

We will see if Jim Keller's many talents include managing software.

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I found that Lex interview enlightening for two reasons. Firstly, Keller is a profoundly talented and interesting guy. And secondly, Lex is a truly painful and incompetent interviewer; virtually every time Lex spoke I begged my screen for him to stay quiet and let Keller speak.

Fridman's interviews are an unusual combination of being well researched and incompetently conducted. When the interviewees are so interesting and well-chosen, and otherwise not the sort of person who would get a lot of media attention (Jim Keller is one example), it is indeed painful when he interrupts the guest or... sigh... interacts with them verbally in any way, really. Unrelated, but Fridman's proclivity for in…

>Unrelated, but Fridman's proclivity for injecting Elon Musk as a discussion topic into the vast majority of his interviews is genuinely weird.

Or Aliens, or asking for the meaning of life.

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I found that Lex interview enlightening for two reasons. Firstly, Keller is a profoundly talented and interesting guy. And secondly, Lex is a truly painful and incompetent interviewer; virtually every time Lex spoke I begged my screen for him to stay quiet and let Keller speak.

That's exactly what I thought. Jim Keller had a lot of deep insights that he was boiling down to simple terms. It was obvious he had thought about these ideas for a long time and that what he was saying came from a lot of experience. He would talk about things like switching lanes in driverless cars being a matter of ballistics. Lex Friedman just interrupted him in a whiny voice to say "it's not thaaat simple". He ba…

John Carmack was on his show.

Re: Jim Keller and his pioneering work on chip design and architecture

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How was Keller able to pull off so much impactful work over so many organizations? i.e. what proportion of his impact was attributable to novel ideas, solo engineering implementation ability, engineering leadership, or just darn good timing?

I was at Intel when Jim Keller came. He was one of the most inspiring technical leaders I have ever encountered. He obviously had very strong engineering knowledge as well. When he came in, he took some time to really understanding our process and challenges. Then he created 5 areas that Intel needed to improve. He said “we are going to fix these, or burn down the place trying”. And these weren’t vague goals like “ex…

Moar. Maybe you have some more stories or insights from him. I'm a shameless fanboy. I also listened to I think every podcast (not many of them unfortunately, Lex ones seem the best as expected). This guy oozes wisdom.

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I found that Lex interview enlightening for two reasons. Firstly, Keller is a profoundly talented and interesting guy. And secondly, Lex is a truly painful and incompetent interviewer; virtually every time Lex spoke I begged my screen for him to stay quiet and let Keller speak.

I had the same feeling with a lot of interviews from the past, but somehow, about a year ago, something changed. Not sure if it was a conscious decision or just the result of so much practice, but for quite something I haven’t screamed at my screen when listening to Lex.

I think Lex is a very talented interviewer. His questions often seem low quality (to me), but he pushes the discussion in the correct direction. He seem to be e.g. build sentences where after the first part there is a moment for guest to throw in something or for Lex to judge guest reaction. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it, but regardless, he seem to be able to get something out of these guys which others interviews couldn't. Shining example is Stephen Wolfram who seem to be extremely hard to interview.
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