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Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by cantrevealname »

dekhn wrote: post #19
jeffbee wrote: post #16

The most interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that the room-temperature superconductor people and the generative-LLMs-are-God people draw on the same limited global pool of credulity, such that HN cannot be flooded with both ChatGPT worship and superconductor speculation at the same time.

the singularity isn't going to implement itself, you know.

The next breakthrough we need is with fusion technology. With unlimited fusion energy, room temperature superconductivity, and (soon) artificial general intelligence, the singularity won't be long off.

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by sheepscreek »

jeffbee wrote: post #16

The most interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that the room-temperature superconductor people and the generative-LLMs-are-God people draw on the same limited global pool of credulity, such that HN cannot be flooded with both ChatGPT worship and superconductor speculation at the same time.

On a related note: I am deeply disappointed by how OpenAI has managed to continually dumb down ChatGPT. I’m sure the shortage of NVIDIA H100s and the demand for their APIs shooting through the roof has something to do with it. Perhaps they’ve switched to a quantized model? Who knows.

And yes, LLaMA 2 is awesome. Progress is being made. But it’s slowed down. The novelty’s worn off. Now we’re lacking some fundamental plumbing to reach a useful AGI.

If anyone cares, Bard is proving to be way more useful these days. Especially for research work. And Claude is bar none for document analysis.

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by dekhn »

anigbrowl wrote: post #17
bluecoconut wrote: post #12

I got my PhD studying band structure of high-tc superconductors (experimentalist, ARPES). These Cu d-d interactions right at the fermi energy give me huge hope. Feels very familiar to other superconductors (re: all the cuprates). (Note: I specifically worked in a lab that was measuring a lot of the d-wave character / gap-energies of various superconductors) All in all, I'm now much more bullish on LK-99 being real su…

So happy to hear this. I've been hoping for some sort of breakthrough ever since I first encountered footage of magnets falling through Cu tubes at an extremely leisurely pace.

If you haven't seen it, levitating frogs are also quite wonderful. https://slate.com/business/2014/05/nobel-prize-in-physics-an...

An Ig Nobel AND a Nobel. That's quite the achievement.

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by refulgentis »

jeffbee wrote: post #16

The most interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that the room-temperature superconductor people and the generative-LLMs-are-God people draw on the same limited global pool of credulity, such that HN cannot be flooded with both ChatGPT worship and superconductor speculation at the same time.

There isn't a singular group of people (if you will, a They) fulfilling this criteria.

I don't understand why it's worth being bitter about something so joyful and fundamentally human in realtime.

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by refulgentis »

sheepscreek wrote: post #42
jeffbee wrote: post #16

The most interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that the room-temperature superconductor people and the generative-LLMs-are-God people draw on the same limited global pool of credulity, such that HN cannot be flooded with both ChatGPT worship and superconductor speculation at the same time.

On a related note: I am deeply disappointed by how OpenAI has managed to continually dumb down ChatGPT. I’m sure the shortage of NVIDIA H100s and the demand for their APIs shooting through the roof has something to do with it. Perhaps they’ve switched to a quantized model? Who knows. And yes, LLaMA 2 is awesome. Progress is being made. But it’s slowed down. The novelty’s worn off. Now we’re lacking some fundamental p…

It's not dumber. You can verify this on their models with any prompt you ran at 0.0 when it first came out, I did. It's the exact same model run the same exact way. They've repeatedly confirmed this.

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by rel2thr »

jeffbee wrote: post #16

The most interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that the room-temperature superconductor people and the generative-LLMs-are-God people draw on the same limited global pool of credulity, such that HN cannot be flooded with both ChatGPT worship and superconductor speculation at the same time.

Theres some crossover. Isn't this exactly what a rogue super AI would do first?

- run some simulations and discover a superconductor

- then write up a paper on it ( the paper has some gaps but humans take it and run with it)

- human technology and computing power rapidly accelerates.

- the rogue AI's powers increase exponentially

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by SamPatt »

jeffbee wrote: post #16

The most interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that the room-temperature superconductor people and the generative-LLMs-are-God people draw on the same limited global pool of credulity, such that HN cannot be flooded with both ChatGPT worship and superconductor speculation at the same time.

The least interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that HN is split into a group who are entertained by watching and discussing emerging tech / science news, and a second group who are entertained by disparaging the first.

I enjoy watching floating rocks and talking to computers.

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by groby_b »

vesinisa wrote: post #26
appplication wrote: post #20

This ongoing research saga pretty much the most excited I’ve been about anything since before Covid. It feels like the science equivalent of watching your favorite sports team on an epic rise towards winning a world championship. Even if this turns out to flop, I hope history remembers the original authors favorably. They really did find something that by all accounts could plausibly be a room temp superconductor. An…

Just curious, how did you find Covid "exciting"? Making lots of money on the bear market?

Emotionally, it was horrible. Societally, it was depressing to see that we'll never be able to tackle any true large problems, we can't even agree on wearing a piece of paper to protect fellow humans.

But scientifically? Yeah, I'll go with "exciting". The field seemed to move at a tremendous speed, or at least that's how it looked to me as an outsider.

Sequencing within less than a week, extremely rapid movement on the mRNA front (and really, the whole vaccination field - 200 candidates in 9 months), revamped understanding of aerosol transmission, leaps in rapid modelling, tremendous progress in terms of test development, growth in international collaboration, progress in the (public) understanding of chronic diseases, scaling up of wastewater monitoring, ...

Definitely exciting.

Re: Electronic Structure of LK-99

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Post by uejfiweun »

sheepscreek wrote: post #42
jeffbee wrote: post #16

The most interesting phenomenon revealed so far is that the room-temperature superconductor people and the generative-LLMs-are-God people draw on the same limited global pool of credulity, such that HN cannot be flooded with both ChatGPT worship and superconductor speculation at the same time.

On a related note: I am deeply disappointed by how OpenAI has managed to continually dumb down ChatGPT. I’m sure the shortage of NVIDIA H100s and the demand for their APIs shooting through the roof has something to do with it. Perhaps they’ve switched to a quantized model? Who knows. And yes, LLaMA 2 is awesome. Progress is being made. But it’s slowed down. The novelty’s worn off. Now we’re lacking some fundamental p…

Hey, who knows, it could just be a scaling issue. (The history of NNs would lend credence to this theory). In which case, if this room temperature superconductor stuff is legit, then maybe we're about to experience a major compute power leap that could result in AGI sooner than we think.
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