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Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by tristor »

kaashif wrote: post #16
cosmojg wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, both my English-speaking and Italian-speaking family use "uncle" and "aunt" with a similar amount of ambiguity. It's a term of respect for elder family members, extended or otherwise.

On the other hand, I've never heard of uncle meaning any family member other than the brother of a parent. At the very least, we can agree that using "uncle" like this is incredibly easily misinterpreted.

Meanwhile, I refer to one of my father’s second cousins as my uncle. It completely depends on context, even in more strict cultures around this. If someone is close enough to the family they can be an aunt or uncle even if their relation is more distant.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by nashashmi »

Kiro wrote: post #28
frfl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the Wikipedia page was just updated, following this post, but it's fairly clear right now. It says fairly clearly in the infobox, "Jensen Huang (表舅 or first cousin once removed)"

"once removed" is not clear at all. To me, it reads like nonsense.

It's descriptively clear.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by jsiepkes »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

> something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "natural order" gets priority at all cost.

That's not a thing unique to Europe. Same goes for almost every Asian company with Korean, Taiwanese, etc. roots.

It even goes further then the Asian continent. For example the president of Samsung Benelux is June Young Park.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

FredPret wrote: post #6
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

Ambitious, capitalistic emigrants are going to choose the US over anywhere else. In addition, for immigrants from Europe/Asia/Africa, the US has almost complete power to pick and choose candidates whereas Europe is physically attached. One last factor I noticed as an immigrant is that newer societies, like the US and Canada, are easier to fit into. For older ones like in Europe, it's just harder to change your identi…

>This isn't a fault on Europe's part, it's probably just natural progression.

I'd say it is, considering they/we have decades of data on what makes immigrants successful and what not.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by flufferstutter »

joelfried wrote: post #31
kaashif wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I've never heard of uncle meaning any family member other than the brother of a parent. At the very least, we can agree that using "uncle" like this is incredibly easily misinterpreted.

I'm a bit surprised you've never heard of the spouse of a parental sibling called an uncle as well. To make that more explicit: my father's sister is my aunt, and her husband is my uncle.

That is definitely common in my experience. Now calling the brother of my parent’s brother’s wife “uncle” might be a bit of stretch.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by brainfish »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

A high SAT score is table stakes for Ivy application, not in any way a free pass. Successful applicants generally need impeccable grades, documented community service + extracurricular activities, stellar recommendations, etc. Or alternatively, be a "legacy", meaning your ancestors attended that school, which is more often than not a proxy for "be rich."

I don't doubt your characterization of the situation in France at all, and there are certainly a plethora of great universities in the U.S. that have reasonably accessible admissions, but the "top" schools (Ivys, MIT/Caltech, etc.) are certainly beyond the reach of many, and favor those who know how to play their game.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by eldaisfish »

adra wrote: post #24
FredPret wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ambitious, capitalistic emigrants are going to choose the US over anywhere else. In addition, for immigrants from Europe/Asia/Africa, the US has almost complete power to pick and choose candidates whereas Europe is physically attached. One last factor I noticed as an immigrant is that newer societies, like the US and Canada, are easier to fit into. For older ones like in Europe, it's just harder to change your identi…

The enterprising Indian and Chinese citizen should know that it could be basically decades to immigrate to the US, so they're choosing anywhere else as a better substitute (or finding loopholes like gaining citizenship in other nations that don't have as long a waiting list?). Based on the current economic regime, it could be decades before candidates are granted permanent citizenship.

that is a bureaucratic hurdle that has little to do with the actual desirability of the USA as an immigration destination. The fact that so many Indians and Chinese nationals continue to move to the USA despite the immigration challenge is testament to this.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by dragonwriter »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

> From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, applying, getting approved for a loan.

Your POV is simply, factually, wrong; more people get high SATs and apply to the Ivy League schools than they can admit by a wide margin, and there are a lot of tricks (many of which leverage accidents of birth, wealth, and social circle) beyond that which go to getting to the top of the list.

The bigger ones involve the hyper rich buying buildings, and the merely very rich engaging in bribery which is higher risk when discovered, but legacies, padding applications with extracurrriculars for which opportunities are very much not equal, etc., all play a role.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by automatic6131 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #2

The wiki does a bad job of clarifying what the relationship is (wth does "first cousin once removed" even mean?). Here's a family tree: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/jensen-huang-and-lisa-su-f... Still, I always loved how immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions, starting or leading top US companies, something that never/rarely happens here in Europe where maintaining the status quo and the "n…

>something that never/rarely happens here in Europe

The English PM is the son of Indian immigrants though

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