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Emotionally Numb: Expertise Dulls Consumer Experience (2021)

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Re: Emotionally Numb: Expertise Dulls Consumer Experience (2021)

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Just my personal experience, but I would say this does not hold with regard to observing nature. Once I know the name of a new fly, fish, or flower, I care more about it, and I enjoy seeing it, and connecting that knowledge with other ecological knowledge.

It's proved that kids that name their chicken, pig, lamb, rabbit, fish, dog or horse cannot accept them to be killed and cannot eat them. thus numbers on farm cattle.

My neighbors named one of their cattle "Ribeye". I bet he was delicious

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This might be one of the reasons why some competitive gaming communities seem so joyless after a while.

Often the game mechanics themselves aren't actually fun (at least after the novelty wears off) but players keep playing because they enjoy the sensation of winning. The player can't have fun unless they win because the game is not intrinsically fun.

You know it's a good game when you can reflect back on a match you lost and think "yeah that was worth it, I had fun."

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This makes sense to me. Watch a movie with someone who took film, especially film production, classes and have them explain it to you afterwards.

Or take writing classes. In every writing class that I've taken, part of the curriculum is to dissect the writing of great authors.

You quickly learn to never dissect books that you love, because after you do, you'll never be able to enjoy reading that book again.

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This might be one of the reasons why some competitive gaming communities seem so joyless after a while.

Or because all of those popular games are manipulative and their goal is not to make you happy or fulfilled, but to frustrate you so you play more.

Those games are frustrating on purpose.

Re: Emotionally Numb: Expertise Dulls Consumer Experience (2021)

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Just my personal experience, but I would say this does not hold with regard to observing nature. Once I know the name of a new fly, fish, or flower, I care more about it, and I enjoy seeing it, and connecting that knowledge with other ecological knowledge.

I can see the truth in what you say; but I have also found that increased ecological literacy has sapped much of the joy I used to feel in nature, because it comes mixed with grief.

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Just my personal experience, but I would say this does not hold with regard to observing nature. Once I know the name of a new fly, fish, or flower, I care more about it, and I enjoy seeing it, and connecting that knowledge with other ecological knowledge.

> Once I know the name of a new fly, fish, or flower, Does knowing the name of something make you an expert? I am not sure, I think perhaps the definition of "expertise" at use in this paper is more precise and demands more. I am not familiar with this area of research, it appears to me that this paper draws on a well-understood meaning of "expertise", probably one that is established in one or several of the citatio…

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Re: Emotionally Numb: Expertise Dulls Consumer Experience (2021)

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Perhaps this holds true more to fields that stem from hedonic experiences themselves like the arts, sports, games etc. I felt this way about music after graduating from music school. I became bored and jaded to music and had to spend several years not consuming music at all. Eventually I regained my love of it. Conversely I don’t think this applies as much to sciences. After I pivoted away from music to become a soft…

I work in tech and the arts and my experience is that some of the most emotionally disengaged people are in STEM, not everyone of course, but comparing the two, it’s not even close. It’s actually pretty rare to find anyone serious in the arts emotionally dimmed, a large part of the job there is dialing into emotion. That said, seems people at the top in STEM (shaping the field) and on the fringes (doing experimental, cutting edge work) are usually experts and highly emotionally engaged. Take it all with a grain of salt, I guess.

Re: Emotionally Numb: Expertise Dulls Consumer Experience (2021)

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It would be far more interesting to see whether this emotional numbness is caused by actual expertise, or if it's just the result of significant amounts of time spent doing a particular activity. I didn't see them differentiate between these two anywhere in the paper, but I only skimmed it.
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