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Re: Internet search tips

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my problem is some operators just dont work any more, either on purpose or because of crappy quality control. for example, you used to be able to do: allintitle:Neil Diamond If You Go Away on YouTube, and get exactly what you would think, results with all those words in the title. but now, you dont: https://youtube.com/results?search_query=allintitle:Neil+Dia... now, I get crap like this: Neil Diamond & Shirley Basse…

Agree. This even applies to simple Booleans, which are sometimes completely ignored.

I sometimes wonder about PMs who sign off on decisions like these, and the seeming lack of protest the developers put up.

Re: Internet search tips

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I feel like Google became absolutely unusable as a search engine. You search for "keyword1 keyword2", and at least half of the results are either "Missing: keyword1" or "Missing: keyword2".

Google is especially bad that this. Often what will be remove is the most important keyword, I assume because that yields more result.

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For complement I would recommend Russian yandex, and vk.com (russian facebook). It is like snapshot of internet from 2018, before everything was hit by massive censorship. It has some very niche communities that are no longer on internet. For example Ancient Egypt history, western net is filled with alien theories, Russians are doing experimental archaeology. Also repair, electronics... Also Telegram is like second i…

Telegram? How so? I'm still only using it for chatting. How would you even find anything on Telegram? The simple global search? I wouldn't like to join random shady groups found through there.

Not sure either, but trying to follow the war in Ukraine has taught me both Ukrainians and Russians get a surprising amount of their news from various Telegrams channels.

Re: Internet search tips

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Who remembers +fravia's searchlores.org https://web.archive.org/web/20000620171446if_/http://www.sea...

a mirror without archive.org: http://biostatisticien.eu/www.searchlores.org/indexo.htm

Thanks very much for this; I'm very much interested in searching techniques, but wasn't aware of this site.

Re: Internet search tips

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I feel like Google became absolutely unusable as a search engine. You search for "keyword1 keyword2", and at least half of the results are either "Missing: keyword1" or "Missing: keyword2".

Until a year ago using DuckDuckGo instead of google felt like only an equal or inferior option. But at some recent point I have found that DDG has slightly improved and Google has gotten much, much worse. With DDG and Bing Chat, google's future is looking very Internet Explorer 6.

Re: Internet search tips

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Wondering why we don't have web search engineers

Mostly people don't think it's possible to scam your way into a job with that title.

But that is a great reposte for "prompt engineer"; my coworker and I joke about being prompt engineers, but really we are technical people putting new tools to use.

Re: Internet search tips

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For complement I would recommend Russian yandex, and vk.com (russian facebook). It is like snapshot of internet from 2018, before everything was hit by massive censorship. It has some very niche communities that are no longer on internet. For example Ancient Egypt history, western net is filled with alien theories, Russians are doing experimental archaeology. Also repair, electronics... Also Telegram is like second i…

Yandex image search is actually useful, especially after Google destroyed their image search.

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Soon, there will be an LLM that can utilize indexes and large scale distributed databases, and that will replace every search engine on earth. Google should be quaking, and pissing themselves. It won't be their bardum, and they won't have the financial power to purchase said LLM. Poof. Goodbye useless SEO spam, advertisement hell. We hated your guts.

> Goodbye useless SEO spam, advertisement hell. We hated your guts. That sounds great, but are you sure that there won't be legions of LLMs generating SEO spam and advertisement hell in warfare with the LLMs that do search? Just as an aside: Sci-fi seems to have one superintelligence (one Skynet) fighting humankind. If superintelligence emerges, I think it's likely that we'll have thousands, millions, or billions of…

The searching of data doesn't need to be controlled by insanely powerful insanely rich entities. Ex: Wikipedia, Craigslist, polio vaccine. If this LLM arms race leads to an organic solution that anyone can grow their own, it might not have as many "This 1 Trick Your Grocer Doesn't Want You To Know" ads in it.

And for superintelligence, let's clarify that this "Artificial Intelligence" moniker has almost nothing to do with actual intelligence, so we're probably a few years off from that.

Re: Internet search tips

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my problem is some operators just dont work any more, either on purpose or because of crappy quality control. for example, you used to be able to do: allintitle:Neil Diamond If You Go Away on YouTube, and get exactly what you would think, results with all those words in the title. but now, you dont: https://youtube.com/results?search_query=allintitle:Neil+Dia... now, I get crap like this: Neil Diamond & Shirley Basse…

Has anyone else experienced DuckDuckGo ignoring the exclusion operator? For example, searching `kiwi -fruit`, with no space between the hyphen and second word, used to bring up results that did not include the word "fruit". This no longer seems to be the case.

Someone needs to build a meta search engine…
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