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This is shockingly similar to how NCAA colleges and universities handle behavior and conduct violations from players and coaches. They perform an internal investigation and then attempt to dish out a penalty or restriction that appears harsh enough for the governing body (the NCAA) not to take any additional action.

Also similar to everyone's response when asked: "What do _you_ think your punishment should be?"

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>current industry frontier >Dalle 2 I'm sorry OpenAI, but your model is not the frontier; also it's funny that it's the only text-to-image models mentioned, they probably know how better the other models are.

Yes there are so many better ways to produce ethically dubious, derivative trash.

Like tracing artwork with a pencil, these models are unfortunately too transformative compared to humans to compete with them in creating derivative content. Perhaps AGI will come to help us.

Re: Moving AI governance forward – openai.com

#43
It's highly telling nothing is said about the legality of taking the entire sum of human knowledge and using it to train the AI - which already created a huge stink in the generative art community leading companies like Valve to issue a blanket ban on AI art.

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#44

Moving AI governance "forward" - means working on eliminating the competition via regulatory capture, censoring and blackholing any facts they don't like, and preserving the economical status quo with enriching themselves. None of this will protect against actual risks like massive job losses without any reskilling, lowering of living standards and widespread censorship.

Worrying about censorship and job losses is so myopic my eyes are cringing just thinking about it. This is akin to a ship sinking while people are blocking the hallways and fretting about how their makeup looks and where they put their jewelry at. It's so maddeningly absurd there's no point in even discussion, shove them in the nearest cabin and out of the way so the serious people can get on with it.

This kind of mentality is going to blowback on AI researchers very quickly. When the job losses start mounting politicians are going to need a very persuasive answer as to why we should let millions of people be thrown onto the streets so that a few can become absurdly rich. We will either: have a well-thought out, empathetic plan to resolve this issue, or the mob will burn down the data centers. Your choice.

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> Worrying about censorship and job losses is so myopic my eyes are cringing just thinking about it. Why? I'm not concerned about censorship, but I am deeply concerned about the potential economic fallout. Why shouldn't I be? I would genuinely love to have one less worry on my plate.

Technology advances have happened many many times in history. But there is always more work to be done. I was reading Man’s Search For meaning, written shortly after ww2. The author notes that Americans have too much free time. Clearly that is not the case 80 years later.

In 5 years or less we might see a massive reduction in demand for human taxi drivers. What are taxi drivers going to do? These are typically not people who are well educated and capable of making a rapid shift into another field. And what do we tell them when they choose another field to work in, only to see that field be automated away too? At some point, won't we run out of carrots to dangle in front of the displaced?

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Worrying about censorship and job losses is so myopic my eyes are cringing just thinking about it. This is akin to a ship sinking while people are blocking the hallways and fretting about how their makeup looks and where they put their jewelry at. It's so maddeningly absurd there's no point in even discussion, shove them in the nearest cabin and out of the way so the serious people can get on with it.

This kind of mentality is going to blowback on AI researchers very quickly. When the job losses start mounting politicians are going to need a very persuasive answer as to why we should let millions of people be thrown onto the streets so that a few can become absurdly rich. We will either: have a well-thought out, empathetic plan to resolve this issue, or the mob will burn down the data centers. Your choice.

You are 100% right. Inequality can only be sustained when most people see a way up, so they feel "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" instead of being poor. When things get to a point where they feel like anything they do is a dead end and there is no chance of breaking out of poverty, that's when things get very nasty and society gets shaken up fundamentally.

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Yes there are so many better ways to produce ethically dubious, derivative trash.

I don't think they meant better in the artistic sense but in the sense that they outperform on metrics?

Yes and no, with models like Stable Diffusion the team behind it has released metrics so you can see even on paper that the model has better performance than Dalle 2 (SD has a lower MS-COCO FID so it's better). For models like Midjourney there are no metrics, but the difference in quality is so big that there is no real need if you just want to know which model is better. On a high level, Dalle 2 is worse because it generates a lot of artifacts, no details whatsoever, it has a fixed resolution and aspect ratio, and the fact that the model is proprietary means that you can only do what is available in the frontend and API, and there is not much.

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Worrying about censorship and job losses is so myopic my eyes are cringing just thinking about it. This is akin to a ship sinking while people are blocking the hallways and fretting about how their makeup looks and where they put their jewelry at. It's so maddeningly absurd there's no point in even discussion, shove them in the nearest cabin and out of the way so the serious people can get on with it.

This kind of mentality is going to blowback on AI researchers very quickly. When the job losses start mounting politicians are going to need a very persuasive answer as to why we should let millions of people be thrown onto the streets so that a few can become absurdly rich. We will either: have a well-thought out, empathetic plan to resolve this issue, or the mob will burn down the data centers. Your choice.

I think you misunderstood the mentality. When there are hundreds of AI cults desperately trying to evolve their AI to be the New One True God who will make them all billionaires, leading to civil wars breaking out in every first world country simultaneously, job losses will be the least of your worries.

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Turns out that this wouldn't stop others from building it.

Right? That’s why I continue kicking kittens. If I don’t, someone else will. It better be me, because I’ll kick them real gentle.

When it comes to completely fucked up applications of AI, China is decades ahead of the US.
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