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OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by smackfu »

ugh wrote: post #20

Then congratulations Apple, for making a not so great map even worse. I can't really judge map quality in the US, but in Germany it sucks. Cities show up twice or are missing completely, labels are often small, unreadable and ugly. There is no consistency in the placement of lables. OSM has its fair share of inconsistencies but it's not that bad. The map is ok for what it is: Just for presentation inside of iPhoto, n…

I didn't even think it was good enough for iPhoto. On one of my photos (in the US), it showed some random town label that I wouldn't consider correct, zooming out didn't add any new labels, and it took forever to download any new tiles.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by cicloid »

sambeau wrote: post #2

"It’s also missing the necessary credit to OpenStreetMap’s contributors; we look forward to working with Apple to get that on there."

Could the credits be embedded in the copyright for the software/eula/about in the App?

The GIStiquette, seems to imply that there is almost always some copyright in the footer of the map.

Could this copyright be embedded in the documentation (à la MIT) and still comply?

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by tcard »

ugh wrote: post #20

Then congratulations Apple, for making a not so great map even worse. I can't really judge map quality in the US, but in Germany it sucks. Cities show up twice or are missing completely, labels are often small, unreadable and ugly. There is no consistency in the placement of lables. OSM has its fair share of inconsistencies but it's not that bad. The map is ok for what it is: Just for presentation inside of iPhoto, n…

Out of curiosity, I made a comparison between the two towns where most of my photos are taken as seen in GMaps vs. OSM.

http://cl.ly/133M1H3W2W362S2F0l13 http://cl.ly/2P2d3y042N1T0o2p390H

600k and 60k inhabitants respectively.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by rmc »

petsos wrote: post #43

I wonder if this is a temporary quick and dirty solution from Apple, pending a full-scale switch to their own maps in iOS 6.0.

"Their own maps"? These are their maps. They are rendering them, they are hosting them. If you mean "their own map data", then that would be silly (& expensive) for Apple to either (a) drive a car around everywhere like Google Street View or (b) licence some third party mapping company. OSM is a good solution for Apple here.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by ErneX »

ugh wrote: post #20

Then congratulations Apple, for making a not so great map even worse. I can't really judge map quality in the US, but in Germany it sucks. Cities show up twice or are missing completely, labels are often small, unreadable and ugly. There is no consistency in the placement of lables. OSM has its fair share of inconsistencies but it's not that bad. The map is ok for what it is: Just for presentation inside of iPhoto, n…

Also Spain has errors, they call the Madrid area "Los Madriles" which is pretty funny.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by trin_ »

ugh wrote: post #35
trin_ wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

its missing detail? at least in my city its much more detailed than gmaps

OSM or Apple's maps? OSM has crazy amounts of accurate detail for all cities I know in Germany. Apple's tiles have all the streets but not a lot of detail (probably by choice, nothing wrong with a sparser map, especially for the intended purpose) and the labels suck.

i meant osm. sorry for the misunderstanding.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by forza »

rmc wrote: post #45
petsos wrote: post #43

I wonder if this is a temporary quick and dirty solution from Apple, pending a full-scale switch to their own maps in iOS 6.0.

"Their own maps"? These are their maps. They are rendering them, they are hosting them. If you mean "their own map data", then that would be silly (& expensive) for Apple to either (a) drive a car around everywhere like Google Street View or (b) licence some third party mapping company. OSM is a good solution for Apple here.

They did buy c3 technologies so they are probably up to something map related.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by Angostura »

cicloid wrote: post #42
sambeau wrote: post #2

"It’s also missing the necessary credit to OpenStreetMap’s contributors; we look forward to working with Apple to get that on there."

Could the credits be embedded in the copyright for the software/eula/about in the App? The GIStiquette, seems to imply that there is almost always some copyright in the footer of the map. Could this copyright be embedded in the documentation (à la MIT) and still comply?

I wondered that too. I don't have the app, but I would bet that Settings > General > About > Legal Notices would be the place to look?

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by chc »

sdoering wrote: post #18
ot wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why is that, that if Apple ignores credit/copyright (on a massive scale), that everybody loves their move. It actually sounds very passive-aggressive to me.

It is a mix of sarcasm and being feed up with big cooperations, screwing people who dedicate their own time, contributing to projects like OSM. So it might sound passive/aggressive. But wouldn't Apple be active/aggressive, if I would use their IP? Wouldn't they srew me for all I#m worth in court? I really don't know, but I wouldn't want to find out...

What is your point? All I'm getting here is "Apple has an inhouse legal team."
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