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Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

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post #29

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Really? I haven't used Postman since Insomnia came out. What's keeping you with Postman?

Isn't Insomnia the same? The parent company (KongHQ) is also backed by VCs @ 1.2B valuation. Whats the difference/better?

Insomnia isn't as far along the enshittification process yet (emphasis on yet)

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#42
post #7

Try as they might, I don't think Postman will ever be able to justify that $5.6bn valuation...

Now they are forcing to register to their platform to continue using the collections for free. So most of the users will have to enter their data, or just leave the product (difficult, there's not that much alternative)

Fwiw, I use VSCode with the ’REST Client’ extension and it’s pretty much all I need: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=humao.re...

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#43
post #30

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Google has a search index. Apple has hardware & manufacturing IP.

How is search index a moat? It's hard to build, yes, but there is no moat here and anyone can build it as long as they have infra, talent and money. Also for Apple while I am not sure, but looking at the Android phones there is hardly any feature of Apple which hasn't been covered by some Android phone, so I don't think IP is an issue. It's just that overall quality is much more consistent for Apple across generation…

I don’t think you understand how moat is used in this context. A moat isn’t impossible to cross, just harder to cross than a lawn. Also, I don’t think you can saw two features are the same unless the quality is the same. Two sms apps are not equal if one of them occasionally fails to send/receive messages.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#44
post #28

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Does postman do anything curl doesn’t? When I was on onboarding at a job my pair started teaching me postman, which ended with me teaching them curl and them dropping postman. If you need to share queries, put them in version control!

postman was essentially built as a easy GUI version of curl. Once it went the VC route it kinda jumped the shark.

Agreed. Postman is a classic victim of "Enshittification" to try to recoup the VC money.

I prefer this VS Code plugin for the very simple stuff https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=humao.re...

I'm sure there's a gap for a "better postman" that's more complex that that, but a lot less encrusted than postman.

However IMHO, the more complex scripted testing is better done in your main dev language

Source: I have been working with Postman a lot this week. It's bad.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#45

Try as they might, I don't think Postman will ever be able to justify that $5.6bn valuation...

Does postman do anything curl doesn’t? When I was on onboarding at a job my pair started teaching me postman, which ended with me teaching them curl and them dropping postman. If you need to share queries, put them in version control!

I have a few qualms with this app: 1. For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

2. It doesn't actually replace a USB drive. Most people I know e-mail files to themselves or host them somewhere online to be able to perform presentations, but they still carry a USB drive in case there are connectivity problems. This does not solve the connectivity issue.

3. It does not seem very "viral" or income-generating. I know this is premature at this point, but without charging users for the service, is it reasonable to expect to make money off of this?

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#46
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I haven't used Postman since Insomnia came out. What's keeping you with Postman?

Isn't Insomnia the same? The parent company (KongHQ) is also backed by VCs @ 1.2B valuation. Whats the difference/better?

KongHQ at least have Kong (the proxy), which I guess they can sell enterprisy support contracts etc for. Perhaps they won't need/want to make Insomnia a subscription nightmare?

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#47
Wow, Akita looks awesome and super powerful/simple for o11y - IMO one of the most important things you can do for enterprises being coherent with their data. I look forward to trying it.

That said, powerful observability tools (Solarwinds anyone?) are really hard to make persistently secure, especially as they grow in their cumulative observations. I'm not really sure there exists a turn-key approach to secure these systems at scale without oppressive overhead or a near perfect team.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear about a mis-configured security group on an Akita instance caused a sev1 within 5 years.

Definitely not unique to either Akita or Postman but always worth discussing IMO

Congrats to Jean and the Akita team!

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#49
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does postman do anything curl doesn’t? When I was on onboarding at a job my pair started teaching me postman, which ended with me teaching them curl and them dropping postman. If you need to share queries, put them in version control!

postman was essentially built as a easy GUI version of curl. Once it went the VC route it kinda jumped the shark.

It also has useful automation for dealing with things like OAuth which would be annoying to handle manually (or to script) with curl.

In general I like Postman because of the ergonomics, not because it does something that more primordial tools can't. Makes debugging easier.

Re: Postman acquires Akita for automated API observability

#50
post #9

Insomnia has always served me much better than postman

Postman was the way to go when it first came out. But then they started throwing everything into it so it became the most convoluted and horrible ux I could imagine. I also switched to Insomnia, and it's like going back in time to the cleanliness of Postman way back when.

Give it another few years and people will be saying the exact same thing about Insomnia and some new product on the market. The company behind Insomnia is also VC-funded, so this is almost inevitable.
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