The thing I would find hard is finding 2.5k job listings that I thought were compelling and would interest me, maybe I'm just picky?
2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
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Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#42Have I been incredibly lucky my entire career? I don't think I've applied for more than 10 jobs at once. I have heard stories like this before - maybe the market has shifted drastically, or maybe spamming 2500 applications means each one is ... less good than one might think? Tailoring your application to each job has worked well for me at least. 46 Interviews is also a huge amount. I've done less than that my entire…
> Have I been incredibly lucky my entire career?
I wonder that, too, but the last time I was on the market was 2017. This is the first time in my 30-year programmer career that I've heard anybody looking for programming jobs complaining about anything _other_ than recruiters bothering them too much. I haven't been in this market personally yet, but the tone is definitely a new one since the dawn of the internet.
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#43At those numbers, something is wrong with their process. Poor resume formatting/content, bad social skills during interview process. That's barely 2% call-back rate after an application.
Agreed. I’m not sure what it’s like for PMs but 1 bite out of 43 applications is pretty bad. And 1 offer out of 46 interviews is also pretty bad.
Seems pretty reasonable to me if you are really just sending your resume to every listing that makes any sense.
I tried to pick roles I am a decent fit at and I am seeing like a 1 in 20-30 response rate. LinkedIn jobs are showing 100+ applications for any job.
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#44I can only assume that whenever they discussed their previous compensation, they priced themself out of the role (even unintentionally, for the same reason that "overqualified" applicants struggle to find a job, even when they are willing to take less)
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#45Have I been incredibly lucky my entire career? I don't think I've applied for more than 10 jobs at once. I have heard stories like this before - maybe the market has shifted drastically, or maybe spamming 2500 applications means each one is ... less good than one might think? Tailoring your application to each job has worked well for me at least. 46 Interviews is also a huge amount. I've done less than that my entire…
It can depend heavily on timing and industry you are in. Not to search very far, in my neck of the woods, job search can have 6 months lead time even while actively searching. I am passively searching now and I did not have one call back yet ( mostly blind applications without playing HR bingo ). My buddies seem to be experiencing the same thing ( including one relatively recent graduate ). I am not sure if entities are restricting hiring, more people are applying for one spot or its some combination. I am exclusively applying for remote only items, but buddies are not as discriminating.
Still, the number is attention grabbing.
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#46I'm a dev and I apply to like 8-10 roles each job cycle and usually get call backs on 4-5 and then offers from 2-4. I cannot fathom 2500 job apps or 46 job interviews.
We are more highly desired than a typical PM, especially at the salary this person previously received.
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#47Job apps, especially if done on LinkedIn or on a company portal are essentially a black hole for your resume. The signal-to-noise ratio on applications that come in through that channel is so poor that unless you're a tiny company that gets only a handful of resumes, recruiters usually ignore them.
Can you provide some data to support this? I’ve had good luck with applying through LinkedIn and company portals. What other channels are you thinking of?
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#48I'm a 30+ year experience SWE. I had my own successful startup exit and after that I skipped FAANG to join the founding teams at other startups founded by Ex-FAANG big names. Unfortunately none of them panned out.
I recently went through a series of interviews with a company that were dragged out over two months. Each went very well. My last interview was with a "Senior Engineer" who graduated in 2020 and had a little over a year of experience at Google before joining the company in question.
He vetoed me because I used a debugger in a pair programming interview. Not because I didn't complete the task well.
So yeah, it's a bitch out there.
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#49I am currently at 24 applications, 3 interviews in progress, and 6 rejections (all at the initial application stage). Most of the applications are cold applies.
From what I've heard 6:1 isn't a bad ratio - things are definitely not as good as 2021 but also not as bad as last year.
Re: 2500 Job apps, 46 interviews, 1 offer
#50With respect to OP, I think the real issue is the 46 interviews and only 1 offer, not the job applications. To sit through 45 interviews without an offer points to a serious weakness in the interview department. Instead of all the applications, they should have focused more of their time prepping for the interview. The ability to interview is the most important skill when it comes to getting a job, you can be the greatest X in the world but if people don't come out of the interview both liking you personally and appreciating your skillset then its for nothing. This gets harder as you get older, I always make sure to clean up my diet a couple months before I want to interview to ensure I look good either on camera or in person, make sure you wear good clothes and speak clearly.
Personally I am a good 1x developer but I have never had an interview and not gotten a job offer. Probably had 25+ interviews over my career.
The interview is the most important aspect of any job application process. It is largely responsible for the amount of the offer you get as well. It also manages peoples expectations of you once you start the role as well.