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Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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> without using API This part seems to be incorrect. See this line: https://github.com/kaangiray26/geddit-app/blob/main/src/js/g... It's literally a call to reddits API.

Yeah I guess it's an API, but it's using public endpoints that don't require registering an application and creating an API key, or being subjected to the same rate limits.

is every endpoint that returns JSON an api? maybe

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Totally agree. I was ready to pay for Reddit access in some shape or form but after my favorite client (Apollo) shutdown, understandably, and after I saw how Reddit treated the developer and the community I decided it was time to leave. It was/is incredibly hard to do so, it was a near-daily habit for well over a decade but there has to be a line somewhere and Reddit barreled right past it and never looked back.

I paid for Apollo ultra as well as Reddit premium for over 5 years specifically to avoid this situation. I couldn’t agree more about leaving now that Reddit has played its hand, and it was ugly. I’ve left Reddit.

I'm the same but using Reddit is fun on Android, taking it as an opportunity to reduce my screen time although I would have been happy to pay for an API key to use the client I wanted.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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That's not hostile. That's wanting you to use one version over the other. The fact you think if they don't support your desired version of using it over any other then it's hostile to you. The things you've mentioned aren't even dark patterns. One of them could be considered just a figament of your imagination. And one "Oh they make me log in to see porn" like really? Really?

you cant be serious. I literally can no longer browse reddit, a uncomplicated web forum, on my ipad. I used to be able to. Its performance really is that bad. Actively making your webpage worse for mobile is not user hostile?

Buy a better iPad?

I literally just booted up my iPad to check it out. It didn't force me to the app. It didn't even prompt me to use the app. It responded in a reasonable time. old.reddit.com worked and so did the new site.

All I can take away from that is you're either very fussy to the point you complain about minor things like they're major problems. Or you just can't use a website on your iPad.

There is no actively making a webpage worse. It's all in your head. "I don't like this so it's worse".

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.

What is your opinion on NewPipe?

The difference between YouTube and Reddit is so drastic they are basically incomparable.

YouTube is a humongous monster with their own network backbone and video storage boxes co-hosted by countless ISPs. Multiple major governments would like to unseat YouTube, but they simply can't. YouTube's competitors are Netflix and (to lesser extent) classic TV networks.

Reddit is a web forum hosting platform, that can be wholly bankrolled by a single upper-class US citizen (assuming that your drop their awful video-hosting). Reddit's competitors are WordPress and phpBB.

One of them is somewhat of necessary evil. Another hardly deserves to have it's own custom clients to begin with.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.

I totally agree. Also, this is a thankless task. The app will break every other week when they change webpage (if it's using web scraping) or when they change their internal API because the client was updated. (if it's using the reversed-engineered official app's API)

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Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Of course Reddit is user hostile. - Can't use web version without getting the mobile version banner forced down your throat every other interaction. - Actively making the non-app version worse than the mobile, for no reason other than engagement metrics. - Not able to view "NSFW" posts (of which everything is just false labeled as that) without logging in; even though it shows you the image on the timeline (the entir…

That's not hostile. That's wanting you to use one version over the other. The fact you think if they don't support your desired version of using it over any other then it's hostile to you. The things you've mentioned aren't even dark patterns. One of them could be considered just a figament of your imagination. And one "Oh they make me log in to see porn" like really? Really?

It's the very definition of user hostility. They are forcing me to install the app for no good reason other than increased engagement. I don't want to use the app and all the rubbish that comes with it, the website has worked fine for the last 10+ years, and continues to on desktop.

> "The things you've mentioned aren't even dark patterns. One of them could be considered just a figament of your imagination. And one "Oh they make me log in to see porn" like really? Really?"

I see you decided to completely ignore what I wrote and twist it into something else, to repeat;

- NSFW posts are majority NOT porn but normal posts

- They already show you the image on the timeline - so stopping the post from loading after clicking, and instead showing sign up CTA's is nothing but a dark pattern / cheap trick to drive sign ups.

Again, dark patterns / cheap tricks are user hostile.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Tangentially related, but what happened to the protest? Did all the mods just fold after the threat of being replaced? For something that was pushed so hard for a couple of weeks on Reddit’s front page, it’s bizarre how forgotten the protest seems to be after the changes were put into effect.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your opinion on NewPipe?

The difference between YouTube and Reddit is so drastic they are basically incomparable. YouTube is a humongous monster with their own network backbone and video storage boxes co-hosted by countless ISPs. Multiple major governments would like to unseat YouTube, but they simply can't. YouTube's competitors are Netflix and (to lesser extent) classic TV networks. Reddit is a web forum hosting platform, that can be wholl…

PeerTube while still lacking a ton of content and features is gaining traction. I have hope.

Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API

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Tangentially related, but what happened to the protest? Did all the mods just fold after the threat of being replaced? For something that was pushed so hard for a couple of weeks on Reddit’s front page, it’s bizarre how forgotten the protest seems to be after the changes were put into effect.

Welcome to hearing absolute noise from the vocal minority.

The only people who complained were third party client/tool developers, some of whom were making money off of them, and mods who at this point are infamous for their desire for power and authority. Reddit squarely targeted one and then the other, and they won because the silent majority (aka the vast majority of users) didn't care.

With regards to the mods specifically, it could even be argued the silent majority sided with Reddit simply from how down in the dirt the reputation of mods is.

Put another way, what you witnessed was the digital equivalent of those socio-political protests, attended purely by crowds of high school and college students, while the rest of society continued on paying no heed.

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