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Proof you can do hard things

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Re: Proof you can do hard things

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I can do hard things but loss of sleep from a newborn is still hard. This guy prob didn’t do overnight feedings for his kids

One of the things about doing hard things out in the world is that people often recognize you for it. With parenting, it’s the hardest thing you’ll ever do at times and most people in your life really don’t care. It’s a thankless job.

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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I like the idea, but I’m gonna say that (a) calculus is more than a good challenge and (b) math is actually easy. To understand how things actually work, you need math, especially calculus. Deep learning? Calculus. Statistics? Calculus. Finance? Calculus. Physics? Calculus. Mech E, robotics, earth science, econ? Calculus. Second, calculus, like all math, is easy. Like that’s the point, it’s the science of simple thin…

I saw an article where they asked a bunch of scientists and engineers if they actually used calculus in their professions. None of them did. They used Excel and the R programming language.

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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I like the idea, but I’m gonna say that (a) calculus is more than a good challenge and (b) math is actually easy. To understand how things actually work, you need math, especially calculus. Deep learning? Calculus. Statistics? Calculus. Finance? Calculus. Physics? Calculus. Mech E, robotics, earth science, econ? Calculus. Second, calculus, like all math, is easy. Like that’s the point, it’s the science of simple thin…

I saw an article where they asked a bunch of scientists and engineers if they actually used calculus in their professions. None of them did. They used Excel and the R programming language.

What did they do with Excel and R?

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It costs you nothing to believe in yourself. But it will cost you everything if you don't." Discipline is a muscle. Go Build it. Key is to understand different activities require different muscles. Be mindful of picking your activities, but dont keep on waiting.

And yet the Art of War tells you to attack when you are ready and your opponent is not. There are some problems that really need to "stew". Others require immediate action even when you aren't ready. It's very hard to tell the difference, but it's wrong to assert that all problems require immediate action (although I agree that if you're going to err, do so on the side of action, in general)

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Re: Proof you can do hard things

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post #31

I like the idea, but I’m gonna say that (a) calculus is more than a good challenge and (b) math is actually easy. To understand how things actually work, you need math, especially calculus. Deep learning? Calculus. Statistics? Calculus. Finance? Calculus. Physics? Calculus. Mech E, robotics, earth science, econ? Calculus. Second, calculus, like all math, is easy. Like that’s the point, it’s the science of simple thin…

I saw an article where they asked a bunch of scientists and engineers if they actually used calculus in their professions. None of them did. They used Excel and the R programming language.

How you can use R without knowing calculus? Why would you even turn to R if you didn’t have a calculus problem to solve?

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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I lost interest in school around the 10th or 11th grade. I never took any math classes beyond what was required to graduate way back in '96 in Florida. I also didn't go to college.

I've been a professional web developer since 2005 and a development manager (who still codes) since 2017. I don't understand the first thing about Calculus or even logarithms. I'm sure if I did, I'd probably be a better developer. I've had employees try to explain to me fairly basic log notation and my eyes just glaze over. It's never impacted my abilities, nor the respect and admiration I get from them as a well-experienced and knowledgable developer, but I can't help but feel ignorant.

I need to go back to the basics and work my way up; I've lost a lot of it. Where do I start? Kahn Academy?

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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I hate the framing of problems or domains as hard, since it kept me from pursuing them further for many years. And the years later when I tried my hand at those problems, I found that it wasn't nearly as hard as it was being made out to be. Historically many problems have also been hard until people figure them out, and then they stop being considered hard problems. In recent years this has been mostly true of AI-rel…

I hate the framing of problems and domains as hard because I found it so confusing when they turned out to be easy for me. It gave me a false sense of competence and superiority. Because I found calculus (and everything else in school people said was hard) easy, I thought I was just exceptionally capable and other people were incompetent and/or stupid.

I didn't find out until much later (and it still feels like much too late) that I just had an aptitude for learning the subjects traditionally taught in schools in the ways schools normally teach them. I got lucky. Everybody else was just as capable at learning some things in some ways as I was at learning school things in school ways. They just didn't have the luck that their aptitude lined up with what was measured and lauded in childhood like I did.

That meant they all got to learn how to work hard to learn things outside their areas of aptitude in school. I didn't. I didn't realize there were any such things that might matter someday.

I think learning how to learn things that are hard FOR YOU is quite possibly the most important skill in life. The sooner you master it, the better.

Framing some things as "hard" when everything is hard for some people and easy for other people undercuts the more important lesson.

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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post #31

I like the idea, but I’m gonna say that (a) calculus is more than a good challenge and (b) math is actually easy. To understand how things actually work, you need math, especially calculus. Deep learning? Calculus. Statistics? Calculus. Finance? Calculus. Physics? Calculus. Mech E, robotics, earth science, econ? Calculus. Second, calculus, like all math, is easy. Like that’s the point, it’s the science of simple thin…

It will be amusing if we find out that all the things come in discrete quanta, even space-time, which I hear hasn't been ruled out. Calculus and real numbers might not be sitting as pretty.

There isn’t that much difference btw an integral and a summation.

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw an article where they asked a bunch of scientists and engineers if they actually used calculus in their professions. None of them did. They used Excel and the R programming language.

How you can use R without knowing calculus? Why would you even turn to R if you didn’t have a calculus problem to solve?

You don't use calc much when you use R, unless you're working on a problem that involves calculus, which isn't many problems, usually?

R is usually used to do data stuffs in my experience. Like, "take in this data from this CSV, and do these manipulations" which may involve math but not often calculus.

Re: Proof you can do hard things

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From that perspective, going through any kind of struggle (and building willpower/discipline) would be a good enough proxy for learning calculus. It’s a little sad that the best value that the OP can impute for learning calculus is masochism — I cannot imagine saying that for anything in the school curriculum that I actually learned/understood . I wonder (in good faith) whether the OP actually even absorbed calculus…

I remember when the AP Calculus test questions were released only a month or so after I had taken and aced the exam. I had no idea whatsoever how to solve the problems I had solved easily in the very recent past.

It's as you say. I didn't absorb it at all. I stuffed it in short-term memory and passed an exam. But that's all I learned. I learned how to stuff things in short-term memory.

I didn't learn calculus.

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