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32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by w-m »

yunusabd wrote: post #27

Boldly expanding the definition of "art" ;) Reminds me of the eink calendar concept that has been bouncing around the web for some years [1]. There's also this project [2] based on the same concept. It seems to me though that these kinds of projects are always held back by the exorbitant costs of decently sized eink displays. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KDkFgOHZ5I [2] https://github.com/speedyg0nz/MagInkCal

Buying 455[1] of these and hanging them next to each other would be a nice art project. Alas, I'm lacking the $1.1M, and the space to hang them.

[1] https://www.freedomforum.org/todaysfrontpages/

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by swores »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #32
Gasp0de wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For 2500 bucks I can probably pay the person who delivers my daily newspaper to come inside and hang it on the wall for me for at least 10 years.

No you couldn't.

Depends on the person but it doesn't seem completely impossible - ignoring inflation, $250/yr for If they can manage it in 3min rather than 5, it's up to $13.70/hr.

Where I am (UK) I think most newspaper delivery people are aged 13-18, and while there's far less of them about than when I was a kid, I wouldn't be surprised if >50% would be willing to do it to earn an extra $4.80/week.

Of course, you also need to trust the person to come into your house every day, either giving them a key or being available to let them in each time; and while I skipped over inflation it's likely that $250 in ten years has devalued a lot - but maybe you could get a yea for just $150-200/yr at the start to have room for annual increases...

So I don't think your curt dismissal adds much to the conversation.

And that's feasibility thinking about US/UK people, as konart points out in their comment there are countries where $250/yr stretches much further than in wealthy, high-CoL countries.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by hawski »

prmph wrote: post #28

Couldn't one use an old iPad for something similar? I have this idea for some time: a simple SaaS where you create widgets (News headlines, Weather, Stocks, FX rates, Clocks, etc) in your account, then load a special page optimized for viewing on tablets from a few meters away, which is updated periodically. Then you can find another cool use for old iPads by pointing them to this page, and mounting them on the wall.

You kinda can, but there are no 32" iPads and none will look like E-Ink.

The closest I think you could go for is to have a monitor with precise brightness control and measure the wall brightness and adjust the monitor brightness to fit. Something like this was posted once and I'm sure it was done by more people, but here is an example: https://www.claybavor.com/blog/a-canvas-made-of-pixels

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by Pyramus »

konart wrote: post #38
TulliusCicero wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you couldn't.

Depends on country we are talking about.

Okay, then please propose a concrete example with costs of labor, premium for print subscription etc.

Happy to be proven wrong, but USD 2500 seems unrealistic.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by swores »

Pyramus wrote: post #44
konart wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on country we are talking about.

Okay, then please propose a concrete example with costs of labor, premium for print subscription etc. Happy to be proven wrong, but USD 2500 seems unrealistic.

I've just done that in reply to your previous comment, but will add here: they said "pay the person who delivers my daily newspaper", so it's $2500 on top of an existing delivery, not $2500 including paying for a new subscription & deliveries.

edit: oops I noticed the other comment I replied to wasn't you, but anyway - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36629620

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by jacknews »

Gasp0de wrote: post #23
alexandernl wrote: post #2

I'm a news junkie, and the power and allure of a newspaper's front page have always fascinated me. When I stumbled upon an article written by a Google engineer who had built an e ink device with the front page of his favorite daily newspaper prominently displayed on his wall, I was a bit jealous. So, I worked with a e-ink company called Visionect in Slovenia to build a version that comes shipped ready to put on your…

For 2500 bucks I can probably pay the person who delivers my daily newspaper to come inside and hang it on the wall for me for at least 10 years.

It does look cool, but I think the last thing I want on my wall is yet more 'news'.

I was about to say something similar about the price; for that money I can just stick the newspaper itself up on the wall.

OTOH if the display is already 2300EUR, I can't see how the OP can possibly make any money on this, especially with free global shipping, returns, etc, etc.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by Pyramus »

swores wrote: post #42
TulliusCicero wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you couldn't.

Depends on the person but it doesn't seem completely impossible - ignoring inflation, $250/yr for If they can manage it in 3min rather than 5, it's up to $13.70/hr. Where I am (UK) I think most newspaper delivery people are aged 13-18, and while there's far less of them about than when I was a kid, I wouldn't be surprised if >50% would be willing to do it to earn an extra $4.80/week. Of course, you also need to trust…

You have conveniently left out the cost differential for the printed edition, and you are conveniently pricing the trust/risk/hassle that comes with it at 0. And even in this case I doubt the USD 5 pw is the market price, you are basically assuming there is a kid, who values extra pocket money.

So all in all, USD 2500 seems unrealistic.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by Tade0 »

yunusabd wrote: post #27

Boldly expanding the definition of "art" ;) Reminds me of the eink calendar concept that has been bouncing around the web for some years [1]. There's also this project [2] based on the same concept. It seems to me though that these kinds of projects are always held back by the exorbitant costs of decently sized eink displays. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KDkFgOHZ5I [2] https://github.com/speedyg0nz/MagInkCal

Looking at the cost of 32" displays, this one is actually on the low end of what devices meant for professional use go for.

Still a lot, but not "even pricier than a colour-accurate monitor for creators" a lot.

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