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Leaving Instapaper for Readability

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Re: Leaving Instapaper for Readability

#41
I used Instapaper for quite a while, even wrote a small Android utility app to quickly bookmark a link to my Instapaper account and read it later on a bigger screen. But it was a long time ago.

I use Read It Later these days. Simply because it's a better product than Instapaper. It runs on all devices I own and use daily: iPhone, Android phone and tablet, MacBook, Linux laptop, Linux workstation. I bought Instapaper app and still have it on my iPhone mostly to check if its latest update has anything great which I miss in RIL. Nothing.

PS Marco's personality certainly "helped" me switch. But it's minor.

Re: Leaving Instapaper for Readability

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I was also frustrated by the sort of arrogant response to all the complaints about non-development topics. It's not like we can't have interesting shows about technical topics! Hypercritical and The Critical Path are proof enough with the same host. And I wouldn't even mind technical topics about coffee or thermostats (ok maybe I would mind about that). What kills me is the half-baked life coach bullshit that 1/3rd o…

Exactly. Back in the earlier episodes when they were talking about development they were pulling the topics from concrete problems that they had solved. Their topics now seem to stem from random anecdotes from their lives and their "expertise" on these topics is questionable at best. I fear what will happen is once Marco's child is born, half of every Build & Analyze episode will be about Dan and Marco's children and…

>I fear what will happen is once Marco's child is born, half of every Build & Analyze episode will be about Dan and Marco's children and how they manage their time.

Yeah. That'll be a mess. I'm a big 5by5 nerd, so I listen to almost all the main podcasts on there. And when I need advice about time management, I'll listen to Merlin. I don't need a half assed Merlin impression from someone with no employees or bosses.

You are right about it being their show. It's just a shame because I think it fills up a time slow in the 5by5 schedule which could be better utilized by finding someone who wants to talk about development topics. Without that discipline everything devolves into life-coach wankery.

Re: Leaving Instapaper for Readability

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I left Instapaper for Readability as well, but my reason was entirely different and a first for me (at least on the web): Marco. I'm not even sure what it is about him exactly, but after listening to some of his Build and Analyze podcasts and reading his slanted blog posts I just found myself not wanting to use or support Instapaper anymore.

I can certainly imagine that making you want to stop listening to his podcast and stop reading his blog, but it is surprising that it would be the reason you switched to a competing software product. Are Instapaper and Readability otherwise so similar that the merits of the apps themselves didn't tip the balance?

In my opinion yes.

Comparing the two, they have the exact same functionality that I care about and Readability has a Chrome extension which is a lot better in the Instapaper bookmarklet to me.

Instapaper does have a collection of previous articles that I still want to read which makes the scales basically even but Marco's arrogance and his...I don't know if sense of entitlement is the right description but regardless I don't have the urge to suport him just because he is the "little guy".

For iOS user's I think Readability and Instapaper are interchangeable but the big difference will be Readability's Android support. Marco is on record saying he will never have an Android version because he never wants to hire anyone. He always wants Instapaper to be a one man operation.

In the end competition is good. Hopefully Readability will bring some new ideas to the table and if Marco has the capacity to either keep up with them or innovate in other ways then these "save to read later" tools will just get better.

Re: Leaving Instapaper for Readability

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Back in the earlier episodes when they were talking about development they were pulling the topics from concrete problems that they had solved. Their topics now seem to stem from random anecdotes from their lives and their "expertise" on these topics is questionable at best. I fear what will happen is once Marco's child is born, half of every Build & Analyze episode will be about Dan and Marco's children and…

>I fear what will happen is once Marco's child is born, half of every Build & Analyze episode will be about Dan and Marco's children and how they manage their time. Yeah. That'll be a mess. I'm a big 5by5 nerd, so I listen to almost all the main podcasts on there. And when I need advice about time management, I'll listen to Merlin. I don't need a half assed Merlin impression from someone with no employees or bosses.…

Yeah I really liked the development topics. I suppose it is time to start looking for another podcast that fills that void.

Don't suppose you have any recommendations do you?

Re: Leaving Instapaper for Readability

#45
I do not like to use ad-blockers but ads have made internet really impossible to use. Some sites have few layer of ads before you can actually access the content. I feel content providers don't respect their customer by putting hundreds of ads on their website. You do not always appreciate intrusive ads like music or video or resource intensive flash. If content providers can be considerate of the number of ads they put on their website, I will not have to use ad-blocker at all.

Read-It-Later is the only solution on Android, so, I go with it.

Re: Leaving Instapaper for Readability

#46
Following this train of thought simply leads to a further moral dilemma. If the concern is that Instapaper is bad because it bypasses the content providers income methodology then Readability is also bad because it does the exact same thing. The only difference is that Readability has created their own income methodology, of which a portion they feed back to the content providers (sometimes). At no point does either service require a content provider opt-in before the service's users are able to pull content from the providers.

I believe Instapaper has an opt-out function for content providers whereby Instapaper users are prevented from adding that content providers content to their Instapaper account. Does Readability have that opt-out capability as well? If not, Readability could very well be considered worse than Instapaper on a moral scale since Readability then becomes a form of blackmail: agree to accept payment for your content that we decide is just, otherwise we'll simply eliminate your existing payment method anyway.

I fail to see how any moral analysis of either service could conclude one is good and the other bad. They are both bad from the perspective of the average content provider. Half measures, and possibly blackmail, do not assuage the moral concern.

Re: Leaving Instapaper for Readability

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I fear what will happen is once Marco's child is born, half of every Build & Analyze episode will be about Dan and Marco's children and how they manage their time. Yeah. That'll be a mess. I'm a big 5by5 nerd, so I listen to almost all the main podcasts on there. And when I need advice about time management, I'll listen to Merlin. I don't need a half assed Merlin impression from someone with no employees or bosses.…

Yeah I really liked the development topics. I suppose it is time to start looking for another podcast that fills that void. Don't suppose you have any recommendations do you?

If you're not listening to Hypercritical, then I probably don't have too many suggestions. [StackExchange](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/category/podcasts/) podcasts are nice, but sometimes insidebaseball-y.
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