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A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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For comparison, this is between 4 and 5 times larger than the Osceola Mudflow ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osceola_Mudflow ) that formed the 550km² of fertile plains around the south end of Puget Sound (near Seattle) and knocked a huge chunk out of Mount Rainier. If you drive from Auburn to Enumclaw, for example, notice how flat the land is and think about how that was hilly Cascade foothills and glaciated drumlin…

> According to my father, until around the time he was doing Geology at university (late 1960s), the consensus was that these kinds of events (and mass wasting more generally) were geologic processes that no longer happened (and hadn't really happened throughout the Holocene). I don't know the history in detail there, but it does seem true that only relatively recently we've had a real appreciation for how active Ear…

Geology went hard for uniformitarianism during the 19th century as a reaction against the earlier "catastrophist" worldview, which had interpreted all major land forms as consequences of the great global flood described in the Bible (or something like it). This yielded a strong preference for theories involving continuous processes operating over long spans of time, and skepticism of theories involving sudden, violent changes. This swung back to a better balance during the 20th century; with the ghost of Noah's Ark exorcised, the role of local "catastrophes" in geologic history could again be taken seriously.

Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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> … the energy released would have been equivalent to around six times that of the Tsar Bomba But how does that compare to an Olympic swimming pool full of double decker omnibuses being dropped from the same height?

The lengths people will go to to avoid using the metric system!

Funny how we went through the monumental effort to build and adopt a whole new system of units just because a few people were bad at grade-school arithmetic and mental math.

Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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I am always amazed how thin the biosphere is - 3km down in the water , 3 up in the air - so roughly 1/1000 of the radius of the earth. And the vast majority of the biomass could probably be found in couple of hundred meters close to water level.

Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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I think most people can understand what a meter is, or what a kilometer is, but would have no idea of what a kilojoule is, or what the energy inside a barrel of oil is.

I'm Canadian, and have never traveled to Europe but, every imported piece of food I've ever seen has the energy measured in kilojoules.

Actually it is both in kj and ccal

Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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Before anyone gets excited, the landslide occurred in the 12th century or so :( I was all excited to plan a rock hounding trip to the Himalayas. I even sent out the Sherpa bat signal (it’s a silhouette of me shaving a Himalayan yak), only to find out I’m eight hundred years too late.

Smaller mountain landslides do occur in modern times. There was one here in Montana in 1959 that killed 27 people and blocked a major river. The effects are still visible today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959_Hebgen_Lake_earthquake

the huascaran landslide too

Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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For comparison, this is between 4 and 5 times larger than the Osceola Mudflow ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osceola_Mudflow ) that formed the 550km² of fertile plains around the south end of Puget Sound (near Seattle) and knocked a huge chunk out of Mount Rainier. If you drive from Auburn to Enumclaw, for example, notice how flat the land is and think about how that was hilly Cascade foothills and glaciated drumlin…

>that formed the 550km² of fertile plains around the south end of Puget Sound (near Seattle) and knocked a huge chunk out of Mount Rainier. If you drive from Auburn to Enumclaw, for example, notice how flat the land is and think about how that was hilly Cascade foothills and glaciated drumlins until 5500 years ago. I grew up in this area... there are two tragedies that most people living in this area don't realize. O…

Also grew up there. The soil was _very_ rich.

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> Enough rock fell off a Himalayan peak to bury Paris to the height of the Eiffel Tower > The falling mountain top would have displaced up to 27 cubic kilometres of rock—roughly enough to bury the entirety of Manhattan to about the height of the Empire State Building. It's paywalled then on but I assume it's also enough rock to bury Dubai to the height of Burj Khalifa.

> It's paywalled then on but I assume it's also enough rock to bury Dubai to the height of Burj Khalifa.

Haha lol. These comparisons are always strange when I read them or see them in documentaries. "That's enough X to stretch all the way to the moon and back!"

In other words it's a lot. "No you don't understand! It's not just a lot! It's enough that if unraveled it could stretch around the Earth 10 times!!!"

Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> … the energy released would have been equivalent to around six times that of the Tsar Bomba But how does that compare to an Olympic swimming pool full of double decker omnibuses being dropped from the same height?

The lengths people will go to to avoid using the metric system!

I think the Tsar Bomba was designed metric (unlike the contemporary US bombs and space program) so perhaps it was chosen for that reason?

Re: A gigantic landslide shows the limit to how high mountains can grow

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The lengths people will go to to avoid using the metric system!

They go in increments of 50m. If you asked the width people go to, it would be 25m. So your comment about avoiding the metric system is not really accurate. We don't say the Earth is approximately equal to 150 million kilometres from the Sun, we say one AU. We just use numbers that can be comprehended.

93 million miles you mean
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