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OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

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Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#41

It's probably fine for me if they just want to nerf the ability to bypass paywalls. But it's very common now for me that I found something lengthy and informative, pull the URL and ask ChatGPT to summarize. If that is also nerfed then people will have to turn to self-hosted interfaces :(

Try kagi summarizer, it works pretty great

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#42
> As of July 3, 2023, we’ve disabled the Browse with Bing beta feature out of an abundance of caution while we fix this in order to do right by content owners. We are working to bring the beta back as quickly as possible, and appreciate your understanding!

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#43

For example, if a user specifically asks for a URL's full text, it might inadvertently fulfill this request. So this seems to imply two things: 1: Bing has access to text on websites which users don't. Probably because websites allow Bing to crawl their content but show a paywall to users? 2: The plugin has a different interface to Bing than what Bing offers via the web. Because on the web, you can't tell Bing to sho…

Maybe some sites allow search engines to bypass paywalls so the full content gets indexed, and the plugin appears to be a whitelisted search engine to these sites?

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#44
post #3

Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's sucky to see these tools constantly getting nerfed. I get that there are large questions out there about things like "browse with bing" but that's why I thought it was supposed to be a limited alpha preview. If OpenAI wants us to build workflows on their stack, they need to really crystalize and figure out what that stack is without changing the underlying stack every 5 minutes…

It is annoying. And it seems rather impossible to get this under control 100%, at least if you don't want to much collateral damage. I don't know if it's just that I'm unconsciously raising expectations when trying chatgpt, but I somehow feel like it's getting dumber. I have no idea if this is because of trying to get it to not say inappropriate things, or from trying to get it to not hallucinate. The problem is most…

It’s also impossible for the customer to measure accurately the service that is provided. Siri also cannot write a simple SMS anymore. It’s like Amazon’s SKUs: At the beginning the product is great, then it’s replaced with a lesser version.

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#45
post #25
post #3

Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's sucky to see these tools constantly getting nerfed. I get that there are large questions out there about things like "browse with bing" but that's why I thought it was supposed to be a limited alpha preview. If OpenAI wants us to build workflows on their stack, they need to really crystalize and figure out what that stack is without changing the underlying stack every 5 minutes…

(not at all)OpenAI has a very short time window to monetize and/or lock in their product users. Currently the biggest model one can feasibly run on a desktop pc with let's say a previous gen gpu, 32gb ram, 2x fast nvme drives is approximately 7B. Models comparable in performance to chatgpt are 45B and bigger. In theory it could be possible to run a model like this, but one would wait 5~10 minutes for every answer. No…

yup powerfull open source model + embeddings + in context learning is the way hopefully.

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#46
post #25
post #3

Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's sucky to see these tools constantly getting nerfed. I get that there are large questions out there about things like "browse with bing" but that's why I thought it was supposed to be a limited alpha preview. If OpenAI wants us to build workflows on their stack, they need to really crystalize and figure out what that stack is without changing the underlying stack every 5 minutes…

(not at all)OpenAI has a very short time window to monetize and/or lock in their product users. Currently the biggest model one can feasibly run on a desktop pc with let's say a previous gen gpu, 32gb ram, 2x fast nvme drives is approximately 7B. Models comparable in performance to chatgpt are 45B and bigger. In theory it could be possible to run a model like this, but one would wait 5~10 minutes for every answer. No…

> What is (not at all)OpenAI going to do?

The limiter right now is compute.

If we get to what you’re saying, OpenAI will be developing multi-model models with increasingly large d_model and n_ctx to do a better job of analyzing those images/sounds/videos.

People think ChatGPT is magic now, wait until you can input a picture, sound, and/or video as a prompt…

Don’t fall into the “Information Superhighway” trap of thinking the year 2 form is the final form.

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#47

We found that our product was accidentally very useful and are taking it down while we fix this.

I found the opposite, actually. All of ChatGPT queries that were "enhanced" by web search were invariably worse than without. Usually it gave up. Sometimes it clicked on ads. I don't think I ever asked anything that was enhanced by the web access.

Re: OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature

#48

We found that our product was accidentally very useful and are taking it down while we fix this.

I found the opposite, actually. All of ChatGPT queries that were "enhanced" by web search were invariably worse than without. Usually it gave up. Sometimes it clicked on ads. I don't think I ever asked anything that was enhanced by the web access.

I have the same experience, and I never use it anymore.

Basically browsing gives a worse answer with longer waiting time.

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