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The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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post #38

Maybe somewhat off-topic, but if you don't know, there is a video on YouTube published 11 months ago by "CBC NL - Newfoundland and Labrador" titled "This submersible takes passengers to The Titanic wreck. Climb in!" (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkytJa0ghc ) If I put myself 11 months in the past watching that video, I would probably think this company OceanGate is so professional with zero possibility of mer…

This isn't off-topic. I find your recommendation very therapeutic to watch.

Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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post #38

Maybe somewhat off-topic, but if you don't know, there is a video on YouTube published 11 months ago by "CBC NL - Newfoundland and Labrador" titled "This submersible takes passengers to The Titanic wreck. Climb in!" (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkytJa0ghc ) If I put myself 11 months in the past watching that video, I would probably think this company OceanGate is so professional with zero possibility of mer…

None of them were explorers. The wreck of the Titanic is not a new discovery. They were paying passengers in an underwater ocean tourism venture.

Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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I mean, I get it, it was a clown show. And yes, give it 15 minutes of fame, because it's the Titanic and all. But I feel like some people care about this far more than I can understand, and the news cycle on this is quite protracted. People die in stupid ways every day and this doesn't seem more egregious than most.

Engineering disasters (e.g. the FIU bridge, the Boeing 737 MAX, the Miami condo collapse, and now the Titan submersible) are rightly subjects of significant interest in the press in general and hacker news specifically.

And rightly so - one can derive lessons on organizational culture and risk management from such incidents that are applicable to one's own life and career.

Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I looked it up and the AP style guide now recommends against using [sic].

Cool callout, super interesting justification[1], had no idea. [1] https://twitter.com/APStylebook/status/1124320764054863873

I remember when Twitter links were useful...

Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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I mean, I get it, it was a clown show. And yes, give it 15 minutes of fame, because it's the Titanic and all. But I feel like some people care about this far more than I can understand, and the news cycle on this is quite protracted. People die in stupid ways every day and this doesn't seem more egregious than most.

I agree. I actually rolled my eyes when people initially complained that the Greek migrant boat collapse wasn't getting as much attention. This is a one off whereas migrants die all the time. However as time goes on and the articles are STILL ongoing, after as you say the 15 minutes of fame, I have to agree that at this point in time any writer still writing about this is worthy of an eye-roll in the other direction.…

"if you're a journalist and you're still covering it, then I do think you're a piece of *"

If there's something interesting in the conclusion of the story why get so hot and bothered if someone reports on it? Your reaction is strange to a story that many found interesting and may have follow up details.

Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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Everything is an accident waiting to happen. That's what an accident is.

Driving to work, that's an accident waiting to happen. Consider all the poorly signed roads, drivers of various states of sobriety and rage.

The sub was in use for years, they did well to engineer within their budget. There's always someone pointing out something wrong, nothing would get done if you actioned every single 'concern'

Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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post #44

I think this is pretty well established by now.

This is the New Yorker, you don’t read it for the headlines. There was a fair bit of new stuff in the article.

Yes, the fact that Rush seemed to have designed the company to avoid liability with US alone is worth the read.

Re: The Titan Submersible Was “An Accident Waiting to Happen”

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I mean, I get it, it was a clown show. And yes, give it 15 minutes of fame, because it's the Titanic and all. But I feel like some people care about this far more than I can understand, and the news cycle on this is quite protracted. People die in stupid ways every day and this doesn't seem more egregious than most.

I agree. I actually rolled my eyes when people initially complained that the Greek migrant boat collapse wasn't getting as much attention. This is a one off whereas migrants die all the time. However as time goes on and the articles are STILL ongoing, after as you say the 15 minutes of fame, I have to agree that at this point in time any writer still writing about this is worthy of an eye-roll in the other direction.…

Except that in Europe we have multiple report per day about the migrant death, all year long. And the difficulties, and problem arising, and…

There’s no mystery, no doubt, only pain. This sub failing, well, the pain is self induced so it’s hard to feel concerned, and it’s a mystery (not a big one, ok). It’s light news.

So both have their place. They don’t have the same impact, and well, let’s hope both will be solved… faster for the migrant problem though!

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