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A Look at Bluesky

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Re: A Look at Bluesky

#41

I’ve got a Bluesky invite yet can’t use it because “account creation is temporarily limited”. Seems they’ve totally missed the opportunity of Twitter getting worse over the weekend.

The service seems to be under massive load from the influx of users over the weekend, and they've passed 200k users, posting activity is a few times higher vs "the normal"

So they probably could get even more users, but I'm guessing it's already sufficiently crazy for the team right now

Re: A Look at Bluesky

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post #25

Launching federatable(?) protocol and platform as non-federated, centralized one doesn't spawn confidence in me. The limited registration policy appears to be fueling the desire and excitement by creating a sense of exclusivity that amplifies the demand and anticipation. Reminds me of South Park's "Cartmanland" episode[1]. There's also the fact that Bluesky is run by Jack, who founded and managed pre-Musk Twitter "1.…

> There's also the fact that Bluesky is run by Jack That's not accurate, Jack gave the Bluesky/AT Protocol organization initial grant money, but he doesn't "run" it. The CEO is Jay Graber.

And Linda Yaccarino is Twitter's CEO. In relationships like this, the CEO (or country's president) often has handlers and little decision-making autonomy. Not saying this is the case but I'm not confident it isn't.

Jack is a power-hungry opportunist who throws money at anything that can give him wealth and status in the future.

Re: A Look at Bluesky

#43

I'm not 100% sold on ATProto, but the fact that my identity and content can live separately from an instance is an insanely huge advantage over ActivityPub. I do not want to run my own Mastodon server (though I do) but I also don't want to use someone else's server and put my account at the mercy of the operator. It's maddening to think about how I could build a following or amass a ton of quality posts, only for the…

> I think more and more people are getting fed up with centralized platforms / not owning their data. Given the meteoric rise of TikTok, I don't think there is any sign of this being true outside a small techy bubble. At least, not as a percentage (that is, the growth in the number of people who are fed up with centralized platforms is dwarfed by the growth in the number of people who are fine with centralized platfo…

Well we may learn the hard way. Lots and lots of good old regular people have quit Facebook and stay off Twitter and many other engagement-optimized platforms. These companies have a poor reputation, for good reason. It’s just not 2010 anymore, and the cracks are starting to show. If a new platform such as bluesky, activitypub or Nostr becomes dominant, people will certainly point to this era in particular as a precursor.

Network effects are real, but appear insignificant until they’re in our faces. The fact that it’s currently a minority is expected, that’s just how network effects work. It was just a minority on Reddit when Digg was the place to be as well.

Obviously I don’t have any magical predictive abilities. But the “vocal minority” argument has bitten a lot of people before. Including those that have stake in the game and are paranoid about competitors.

Re: A Look at Bluesky

#44

I'm not 100% sold on ATProto, but the fact that my identity and content can live separately from an instance is an insanely huge advantage over ActivityPub. I do not want to run my own Mastodon server (though I do) but I also don't want to use someone else's server and put my account at the mercy of the operator. It's maddening to think about how I could build a following or amass a ton of quality posts, only for the…

> I think more and more people are getting fed up with centralized platforms / not owning their data. Given the meteoric rise of TikTok, I don't think there is any sign of this being true outside a small techy bubble. At least, not as a percentage (that is, the growth in the number of people who are fed up with centralized platforms is dwarfed by the growth in the number of people who are fine with centralized platfo…

There are still dozens of us who refuse put their face on the internet. Never mind using our actual face and voice.

The younger Snapchat generations have normalised having their face plastered on every random "hello" message daily.

Re: A Look at Bluesky

#45

I'm not 100% sold on ATProto, but the fact that my identity and content can live separately from an instance is an insanely huge advantage over ActivityPub. I do not want to run my own Mastodon server (though I do) but I also don't want to use someone else's server and put my account at the mercy of the operator. It's maddening to think about how I could build a following or amass a ton of quality posts, only for the…

I'd love a combination of the two. My identity would be my domain, but I could host the identity on any server I want and I could easily migrate my data within the network to any instance using the domain as proof of identity.

Re: A Look at Bluesky

#46

I’ve got a Bluesky invite yet can’t use it because “account creation is temporarily limited”. Seems they’ve totally missed the opportunity of Twitter getting worse over the weekend.

The service seems to be under massive load from the influx of users over the weekend, and they've passed 200k users, posting activity is a few times higher vs "the normal" So they probably could get even more users, but I'm guessing it's already sufficiently crazy for the team right now

They (Bluesky) blew it. They had one job and that was to be ready for this moment and what did they do? Continue with the invite system (which is from Gmail era) and then disable account creations...

Re: A Look at Bluesky

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post #15
post #12

Isn't RSS better than all other federation protocols? You have four properties of feeds: category, tree-comment, real-time and persistent. Reddit was the winner on all those except real-time. Decentralization is now the most important feature, and taking responsibility of your own data is the best version of that. The only missing part is decentralized RSS servers and clients. Think backup for your posts and RSS read…

How do you like and reply within RSS?

The whole like score rank thing is kinda overblown.

Reply works fine and comments too even if only local.

Re: A Look at Bluesky

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The service seems to be under massive load from the influx of users over the weekend, and they've passed 200k users, posting activity is a few times higher vs "the normal" So they probably could get even more users, but I'm guessing it's already sufficiently crazy for the team right now

They (Bluesky) blew it. They had one job and that was to be ready for this moment and what did they do? Continue with the invite system (which is from Gmail era) and then disable account creations...

Eh, it's not the first time Twitter is horribly broken and/or makes an unpopular decision, and it probably won't be the last one.

Re: A Look at Bluesky

#49

I'm not 100% sold on ATProto, but the fact that my identity and content can live separately from an instance is an insanely huge advantage over ActivityPub. I do not want to run my own Mastodon server (though I do) but I also don't want to use someone else's server and put my account at the mercy of the operator. It's maddening to think about how I could build a following or amass a ton of quality posts, only for the…

I'd love a combination of the two. My identity would be my domain, but I could host the identity on any server I want and I could easily migrate my data within the network to any instance using the domain as proof of identity.

That is exactly what Bluesky lets you do

Re: A Look at Bluesky

#50
> However, that means interactions, such as user likes, blocks, follows, etc are all public.

Au contraire, if network users control their clients, they can "block"¹ and "follow" content at-the client level without stating it publicly.

¹. Not a full block, as the blockee can still read and interact with the blocker's posts.

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