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All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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This sounds like a good thing imo. Pocket is a great tool that should be fully integrated

pocket is a... well, it's a tool anyway, that never should have been anything but an add-on. Including it in the browser was one of the biggest signs that firefox was willing to sacrifice their user's privacy and security for revenue. If people are fine with telling Pocket what they read and letting them push related ads at them all day they should absolutely have that choice, but it should never have been shoved on…

> If people are fine with telling Pocket what they read

I don't believe the ads shown in Firefox require sending any browsing history to the web (whether to Firefox or anyone else). The mechanism used here is different. I do agree with you that pushing ads into the browser chrome by default is abhorrent (a judgment compounded with the fact that they initially pretended that these weren't ads).

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#44

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I prefer to telnet it over with a bespoke protocol loosely based on gopher.

that sounds like the lazy guy's way of doing it.

What can I say, the product guys have gotten to me. This was an MVP approach.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#45
post #33

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Browsers shouldn't require accounts, and thankfully Firefox doesn't. But having a way to synchronize my passwords across all my devices is pretty important.

They had an implementation that did not require any accounts. They deemed that it's too confusing for users* to scan some QR codes (or type a bunch of characters), so they went with an account-based system. *) Or whatever the real reason was. It was about time Mozilla started to have management issues so I absolutely won't be surprised if the goal was to "become an ecosystem" or "gather a userbase" (or whatever is ma…

> scan some QR codes

How is that not still an account? What definition of account are we working with here?

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#46

Seems like pocket is losing a lot of its value due to more sites not working with its article view. I've stopped using it because of that and also because it doesn't work well for pages that aren't articles and I didn't like having to maintain multiple bookmarking tools. That being said, if it was more integrated with Firefox and Firefox's bookmarking tools, that might make it compelling for me again, so maybe this i…

I hate the way pocket was just plonked in as a feature i never wanted along side a bunch of splash screens.

Gits

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#47

Browsers shouldn't have accounts to begin with.

I like that my browser (Vivaldi, Brave) has accounts so my phone, desktop (2x OS), and laptop (2x OS) are always completely in sync, with no downgraded functionality if I choose to not use an account.

Brave doesn’t have accounts, for privacy reasons. You sync via a.. private E2E (don’t know what else to call it) group you join via a key phrase.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#48
post #46

Seems like pocket is losing a lot of its value due to more sites not working with its article view. I've stopped using it because of that and also because it doesn't work well for pages that aren't articles and I didn't like having to maintain multiple bookmarking tools. That being said, if it was more integrated with Firefox and Firefox's bookmarking tools, that might make it compelling for me again, so maybe this i…

I hate the way pocket was just plonked in as a feature i never wanted along side a bunch of splash screens. Gits

I was also upset at that, but I decided to give Pocket a go. it wasn't bad. and then they changed it so that the Pocket section of the home screen couldn't be collapsed, and it became a problem. see I want it to be there as an option, but I wanted it collapsed by default - otherwise, it's too distracting when I'm just opening a new tab to search for something. so I disabled Pocket and don't use it anymore.

Gits

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#49

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Where does one store favorite links so I can handle them on phone and two separate machines?

You value the syncing browser accounts offer. Personally I like being able to go between several of my own computers and not have all settings synced. It's not a fresh slate situation but it is a bit freeing to not carry all my digital baggage all the time.

Good for you. Firefox accounts are optional.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#50

Even though I have a firefox account, I'm glad I have moved off Pocket (to Readwise Reader). I don't want all my accounts joined. I don't want a threat model where being locked out of one service takes down everything, especially when that service has no support. This applies to gmail and Mozilla equally.

I don't see it either for 108 USD/year. I get that they need to pay for servers, for developers and etc, but I pay less for Spotify and somehow they manage to license vast amount of content.

Well, Spotify does it by underpaying artists.
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