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Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

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Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

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Post by ekianjo »

sverhagen wrote: post #28
thunderbong wrote: post #3

We seriously need a good open source browser alternative. Great to see competition here. I would love to see a browser built for developers with new paradigms for Dev Tools. Of course, the challenge will be parity in terms of rendering and performance with the current incumbents.

I don't know... I'm probably a Firefox fanboy, but all this fragmentation in the market of browsers that are not named Chrome isn't doing us much good in beating Chrome. I'm interested in Chrome being beaten, and it still seems Firefox has the best cards (though I don't know _how_). Once there's healthy competition in browser land, let's reconsider fragmenting it ;-)

> and it still seems Firefox has the best cards

Not with the current execs

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#42

Post by rglullis »

akling wrote: post #40
rglullis wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you perhaps write up how this came to be? Did you know anyone there already, or did the contact come through some previous network? Did you put together a pitch deck or did they reach out to you first? The reason I am asking is that I was some years ago I was working on an open source payment gateway for crypto which I was sure would be something interesting for companies like Shopify, and I even posted an "Ask…

Tobi (Shopify CEO) has been supporting my open source work via GitHub Sponsors since early 2022, so I reached out to him and said (very paraphrased) "I'm gonna start pushing harder on Ladybird, would Shopify want to be an official sponsor?"

Ok, so by induction... how did you get your first Github sponsors?

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#43

Post by jamesbfb »

akling wrote: post #14

Hello friends! I’m really happy to have Shopify putting their faith in our little project like this :) If you’d like a quick intro to the Ladybird project, I presented it at a conference earlier this month: https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs Huge thanks to Mike, Tobi and the other folks at Shopify who hooked this up. <3

Congrats mate! I’ve been following your work on SerenityOS since the 3rd or 4th video, and it’s been amazing to see the progression from then to now!

You’ve definitely inspired me out of a few burnout humps over the years.

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#44

Post by akling »

rglullis wrote: post #42
akling wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tobi (Shopify CEO) has been supporting my open source work via GitHub Sponsors since early 2022, so I reached out to him and said (very paraphrased) "I'm gonna start pushing harder on Ladybird, would Shopify want to be an official sponsor?"

Ok, so by induction... how did you get your first Github sponsors?

I've been broadcasting my programming sessions on YouTube since 2019. I have over 1000 videos here: https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling

Over time, my audience grew, and some people really liked my videos, so I first made a Patreon and later a GitHub Sponsors for those who wanted to help me turn it into a full-time job someday.

Thanks to growing support, I was eventually able to make it a full-time job. For more details on this journey, I wrote about it here: https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/i-quit-my-job-to-focus-o...

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#45

Post by ljlolel »

akling wrote: post #40
rglullis wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you perhaps write up how this came to be? Did you know anyone there already, or did the contact come through some previous network? Did you put together a pitch deck or did they reach out to you first? The reason I am asking is that I was some years ago I was working on an open source payment gateway for crypto which I was sure would be something interesting for companies like Shopify, and I even posted an "Ask…

Tobi (Shopify CEO) has been supporting my open source work via GitHub Sponsors since early 2022, so I reached out to him and said (very paraphrased) "I'm gonna start pushing harder on Ladybird, would Shopify want to be an official sponsor?"

Also notice that the quoted engineer Mike Shaver was a leader at Mozilla before. So helps to have knowledgeable internal support too.

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#46

Post by akling »

ljlolel wrote: post #45
akling wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tobi (Shopify CEO) has been supporting my open source work via GitHub Sponsors since early 2022, so I reached out to him and said (very paraphrased) "I'm gonna start pushing harder on Ladybird, would Shopify want to be an official sponsor?"

Also notice that the quoted engineer Mike Shaver was a leader at Mozilla before. So helps to have knowledgeable internal support too.

Indeed! Mike has been really helpful :)

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#47

Post by jeroenhd »

sverhagen wrote: post #28
thunderbong wrote: post #3

We seriously need a good open source browser alternative. Great to see competition here. I would love to see a browser built for developers with new paradigms for Dev Tools. Of course, the challenge will be parity in terms of rendering and performance with the current incumbents.

I don't know... I'm probably a Firefox fanboy, but all this fragmentation in the market of browsers that are not named Chrome isn't doing us much good in beating Chrome. I'm interested in Chrome being beaten, and it still seems Firefox has the best cards (though I don't know _how_). Once there's healthy competition in browser land, let's reconsider fragmenting it ;-)

I'll stick with Firefox for as long as I can, but I no longer trust Mozilla leadership with browser development.

Ladybird has a long way road ahead before it can actually compete. Servo and WebKit are in much better positions to get a competitive edge if a serious browser maker would actually give it a go.

That said, the modern programming standard employed by Ladybird makes me hopeful that it'll make for a better browser in the long term. Even if it dies a quiet death in a few years, it'll be a useful inspiration for ideas other browser vendors can hopefully take something away from.

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#48

Post by lyu07282 »

npn wrote: post #22
riffraff wrote: post #2

I'm very happy Shopify is doing this, but at the same time I'm mildly confused by the rationale. Is it literally just goodwill, or does Shopify stand to have other potential advantages out of this? Either way, cool.

https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling/search?query=shopify Maybe this is one of the reason? It will be awesome if Ladybird can render Shopify perfectly, not to mention all the free exposure.

What is that link showing? Is he using Shopify as a random website to test his browser against or something? If that's it, that's so hilarious wholesome to end up getting sponsored by them I love it.

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

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Post by TachyonicBytes »

riffraff wrote: post #2

I'm very happy Shopify is doing this, but at the same time I'm mildly confused by the rationale. Is it literally just goodwill, or does Shopify stand to have other potential advantages out of this? Either way, cool.

Late to the party, but I didn't see anyone mentioning this: Shopify seems to be curiously extremely involved in sponsoring WebAssembly-related projects. It's a gold sponsor on AssemblyScript[1], it used to develop javy[2] which compiles JavaScript to WebAssembly, a member of the BytecodeAlliance[3].

I wouldn't think they sponsor LadyBird just for LibWasm[4], as that doesn't make any sense, but technically, they add that to their wasm sponsorships now.

Honestly, it looks like a really nice place to work if you like WebAssembly, I wouldn't mind a collaboration or to work with them.

[1] https://www.assemblyscript.org/

[2] https://github.com/Shopify/javy

[3] https://bytecodealliance.org/

[4] https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/tree/master/Userland/...

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

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Post by keyle »

akling wrote: post #14

Hello friends! I’m really happy to have Shopify putting their faith in our little project like this :) If you’d like a quick intro to the Ladybird project, I presented it at a conference earlier this month: https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs Huge thanks to Mike, Tobi and the other folks at Shopify who hooked this up. <3

I'm really excited for you. Keep up the great content on youtube!
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