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The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by Loughla »

fullshark wrote: post #30
windex wrote: post #5

I personally think all organizations want to be cults with unthinking followers. I read every inbound piece from "management" like they are propaganda leaflets with an implied threat of violence. It helps.

And all the talk about "diversity" and "diversity of opinions" being cherished is nonsense, they want a hivemind singularly focused on executing leadership's various whims.

I think that really is super dependent on your workplace, and probably your field.

In higher education, I can tell you, they do not value diversity of opinion, but they get it in spades. Every decision is questioned, argued, analyzed, and beat to death. Leadership hates it, but I love it. It's one of the closest environments to that 'value diversity of opinion' statement that I've ever been a part of.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by T4iga »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #19

Why are we sprinting? To win. The business world is Darwinian. Sit back and relax, and someone else who is more motivated will eat your lunch. Why do we want to win? To make money so we can have what we want. If you don't feel like you're getting somewhere, maybe you're applying force to the ground in the wrong way.

How many companies do you think go under my sprinting to slow vs in the wrong direction?

I would love to hear an example where in business it came down to motivation of the companies workforce.

I suggest this video about the question of success: Luck or hard(-re in this case) work? https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by dataflow »

paxys wrote: post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

> The best you can do is learn to tune out

Or look around to see if you might be able to hop over to a team or company that doesn't run like this. They do exist!

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by jgust »

trentnix wrote: post #20

> I have similar issues with the agile methodology and its 2-week “sprints”. Why are we sprinting… ALL. THE. TIME. Can’t we at least mix in some brisk walks every now and then a la high intensity interval training? Following the fitness metaphor, the concept of periodization is an overwhelmingly common training strategy. Periodization turns fitness plans into smaller cycles that include active and passive periods of…

1 week: no planning, just reaction

2 weeks: minimal planning effort, not a long enough period to agitate stakeholders when you say "next sprint"

4 weeks: it's MY request and I NEED IT NOW!

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by distcs »

cdnsteve wrote: post #32

My reflection is this is a symptom of North American work culture. In the end, it manifests stress, lost time to decompress and a significant impact on your health. After traveling to LaTam, we have it all backwards. Focus on happiness, family and health are where energy needs to be invested, before anywhere else.

Correct! When I moved out to a certain part of Europe and saw how life is much more than a hustle, it filled me with a renewed energy and perspective towards life.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by Claude_Shannon »

wonderwonder wrote: post #40
rhyme-boss wrote: post #28

I'm jealous of older generations that were at least compensated for their hard work. We're expected to hustle all the time, for no benefit in our personal lives. Software engineering is a "high earning job", yet the basic shit it affords you isn't even to the level of "low" and "middle" paying jobs of the past. You can grind yourself to the bone for years and still not be able to afford to buy a home and raise a fami…

I think it depends where you live. Its relatively easy to land a 100k plus job after a couple years in software in the US. If the argument is things are just way more expensive now, then preach on, its insanity how much a trip to the grocery store costs now.

That feels like USA thing. In Europe it's way lower in average, in Poland average programmist will earn 6-7k per month - around 1.700 USD

Heard similarly about pay in Germany - being a programmist doesn't pay you well

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by maerF0x0 »

paxys wrote: post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

> when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends.

At least in my experience I've noticed some things.

1. Management is incentivized to create the illusion of crisis to squeeze marginal extra labor out of you. They will be promoted away before burnout burns them.

2. Many of the crises are self inflicted by our response to previous crises. The only way to avoid the nausea of the merry go round is to get off it entirely.

3. You will futiley destroy yourself if you try to rail against the times you live in. You have to let the system fail for it to rectify. Martyring yourself will only extend the suffering as the system has no sentience nor conscience about what it's doing to people who care about reality.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by honkycat »

Managing your attitude and stress levels is critical in the tech industry. I would argue getting invested is actively bad.

Not giving a shit and getting the job done is better than caring too much and constantly battling to "improve" things.

I can't handle giving a shit. It burns me out. The best i can do is a "good job" on what i feel like is a reasonable workload.

My grandmother used to say "The graveyards are full of indispensable people." It's true. You leave a void quickly filled after you die. You might as well enjoy the ride.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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paxys wrote: post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

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