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Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by bigbillheck »

sfjailbird wrote: post #28
uejfiweun wrote: post #13

Why is it that it's only sketchy websites like this that report on soybean oil and other seed oils? Surely if it were such a big deal, reputable news outlets would have picked up the story, no? What's going on here? Is the whole thing bullshit? Or is big seed oil covering it up?

I think you are out of the loop. You say 'big seed oil' like it's a joke, but that's certainly a thing and a major lobby. There's a reason margerine was promoted as the healthy choice for decades (without 'reputable news sources' picking up on that it is, in fact, poison, and now illegal in most countries).

> now illegal in most countries

This is news to me, would you mind providing a citation or two?

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by bigbillheck »

tekla wrote: post #36
lm28469 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably that part: > potentially impacting energy metabolism CICO is mostly true if you already have a balanced diet, if you eat 2000kcal of ultra processed food you'll have side effects you wouldn't have with a cleaner diet. The body is a fine tuned machine, it doesn't process 100kcal of sugar the same way it processed 100kcal of broccoli

Creating mass out of nothing is literally impossible.

Sure, but creating mass out of calories that would instead go into the toilet is not.

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by itairall »

uejfiweun wrote: post #13

Why is it that it's only sketchy websites like this that report on soybean oil and other seed oils? Surely if it were such a big deal, reputable news outlets would have picked up the story, no? What's going on here? Is the whole thing bullshit? Or is big seed oil covering it up?

I always assume these articles are for out of shape people checking their phones while eating McDonalds french fries pretending to worry about their health or really in shape people that only eat organic quail eggs.

I just really doubt that seed oils vs some other fat would be my downfall.

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by specialist »

pleb_nz wrote: post #11

Im not sure about where Soy oil fits in, but there seems to be growing evidence that oils made from seeds, often called vegetable oils, are in fact quite bad for you especially when used for cooking.

I currently mostly use coconut oil or butter for cooking and olive oil for taste (salads, hummus).

I don't understand any of the science that I've tried to read (and watch). How misc fats like PUFAs metabolize and so forth.

The Fire In a Bottle guy has explainer videos. Alas, I'm in no way competent enough to judge how good that info is. It seems to jive with other advice, eg Dr Terry Wahls and Dr Rhonda Patrick and Dr Peter Attia. But what do I know? https://fireinabottle.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjt6C_7Vgw4&list=PLo4Cmo9MNY...

Nor am I able to assess tradeoffs. Like with the nootropics stuff, I worry about over optimizing (or just plain wasted effort), where the rewards don't merit the effort.

My impression is the metabolism science is progressing quickly. Esp wrt cholesterol. (I have a stubbornly high LDL, hence my interest.) I'm optimistic that sooner than later some consensus will emerge and some one can just tell me the correct answer and I can get back to coding.

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by slater »

Maxion wrote: post #7
slater wrote: post #2

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(it's a fairly common trope on HN, any time there's a breathless clickbait-y title about some research results, there's a high chance it was tested only in mice, results for humans may vary, etc. etc.)

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by lm28469 »

tekla wrote: post #36
lm28469 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably that part: > potentially impacting energy metabolism CICO is mostly true if you already have a balanced diet, if you eat 2000kcal of ultra processed food you'll have side effects you wouldn't have with a cleaner diet. The body is a fine tuned machine, it doesn't process 100kcal of sugar the same way it processed 100kcal of broccoli

Creating mass out of nothing is literally impossible.

Unless you're a theoretical water container and you burn the food to heat yourself it's much much much more complicated than that

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/science-reveals-w...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3396444/

Re: Soybean oil decreases oxytocin levels in hypothalamus in mice (2020)

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Post by [deleted] »

lm28469 wrote: post #49
tekla wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Creating mass out of nothing is literally impossible.

Unless you're a theoretical water container and you burn the food to heat yourself it's much much much more complicated than that https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/science-reveals-w... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3396444/

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