Right... so this thing hooked up to a centralized AI, deciding what people see when, how often they see it, what they can express and how they feel... Do people really want to live in the matrix? I have a visceral reaction to this idea
Apple Vision predictive bio-feedback
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#42Right... so this thing hooked up to a centralized AI, deciding what people see when, how often they see it, what they can express and how they feel... Do people really want to live in the matrix? I have a visceral reaction to this idea
This could be exciting if the user was in control (FLOSS). The user is not, so it's nightmarish instead.
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#43Valve have been interested into the biological side of VR and BCI for a while too
Apparently they've been working on their own standalone headset (codenamed Deckard), and judging from how Valve Index and Steam Deck were done I'd say there's some significant chance they may get it right.
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#44Right... so this thing hooked up to a centralized AI, deciding what people see when, how often they see it, what they can express and how they feel... Do people really want to live in the matrix? I have a visceral reaction to this idea
Who said it’s hooked up to a centralized AI?
Apple’s buzzword of the day yesterday was “on-device processing” and “on-device X” in general. They have invested heavily for years now into shipping ML chips in their devices and don’t seem to be stopping; if anything they’re increasing the use of it.
Is there anything definitively claiming this would be any different?
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of us Apple Haters are not opposed to this type of technology existing. We are opposed to technology with this much potential for abuse being solely controlled by a profit maximizing patent troll. When the tech is open source and I can control what it does, then sign me up.
Apple has always maximised profits on selling hardware and getting a cut from software. They've never gotten any profits from selling targeted user data. Mobile gaming marketing units are _still_ butt-hurt about Apple's randomised user/device IDs that prevent them from tracking where users came from and downloaded their game. FB and Android tracking still works perfectly, but those users are less valuable because the…
Apple gets profits from locking users into their ecosystems. Google and Facebook play the same game. I find them just as evil.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't really know how I feel about this... But the headset of course does ! Otherwise, it could be interesting if as users we got access to all these measurements, for our personal use. That could open the door to many other applications that would be probably less creepy.
> could be interesting if as users we got access to all these measurements You can! It's not trivial, but not very hard either. eye tracking - OS projects getting this from a laptop camera exist and work well enough for assistive tech (i.e. it can replace your mouse today) electrical activity in the brain - there are fancy things like https://zeto-inc.com/device/ but there are basic options as well heart beats and rh…
I assume GP means that the measurements would be exposed (at some helpful level of abstraction, plus also the raw data say) by the Apple Vision.
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#47Right... so this thing hooked up to a centralized AI, deciding what people see when, how often they see it, what they can express and how they feel... Do people really want to live in the matrix? I have a visceral reaction to this idea
Who said it’s hooked up to a centralized AI? Apple’s buzzword of the day yesterday was “on-device processing” and “on-device X” in general. They have invested heavily for years now into shipping ML chips in their devices and don’t seem to be stopping; if anything they’re increasing the use of it. Is there anything definitively claiming this would be any different?
> Who said it’s hooked up to a centralized AI?
I'm talking about the infrastructure not this device necessarily
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#48I went to art school with this guy.
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#49next level humble-bragging. in post and his replies
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#50I wonder if him not having worked on Apple Vision for the last >1.5 years means they distanced themselves from his "vision, strategy and direction" or even gave up on it.
Judging from his other tweets, he seems really into crypto and making art projects out of crypto tech.
I can't say I really understand the art - and I went to school with him, had the same professors, etc. I'm just scratching my head when I read his tweets.
But well: he's worth many millions and I still have housemates so I guess capitalism has crown him in the lead.