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Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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Subreddits are literally controlled by volunteers who get paid nothing. What is stopping them from just going out for a month? It ought to be a month of vacation time, right? You could argue they might lose users, but who cares, Reddit suffers more from loss of users than them anyway.

Reddit can replace the mods at any time, if necessary with their own staff until they get volunteers.

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#42
The API arguments are interesting from another point of view - who really owns the content generated on a site like Reddit, Twitter, or Hacker News.

Once I send this post out, do I own it? Can I claim some sort of compensation for my comment being used in an AI training set?

Does HN (or whichever site I post the comment on) own the comment, and therefore should be compensated for the comment's use in said training set?

Do we both own the comment, and both have rights to its use?

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardest part is going to be the community itself. Reddit (the board and shareholders) are betting that the community is too large to migrate to a better alternative.

Every time you upset your user base, you give them an opportunity to leave. Or, you turn your advocates into neutral. They stop being willing to do free work for you. Reddit is dependent on free work. Moderators are a significant portion of that process, and they are the ones who depend on the API the most. If your moderators decide to do less work, your community starts going down in quality. If the community goes d…

Not only does it rely on the labor of mods and dealing with a lot of bad behavior. However, the admins also enforce a "code of conduct" on the mods and threaten the loss of the sub for lack of compliance.

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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I see this as a grand opportunity to start new subreddits. It's been decades that the biggest subreddits are being ran by the same aging small group of moderators. The new ones may not be better over time, but it's worth giving it a try.

There's nothing wrong with reddit finally being a bit more serious about their content which is awesome compared to a lot of what is today's internet.

Maybe if they focus on making money they 'll stop their childish grandstanding and culture war

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#45
I'm curious how the logistics of this strike are going to happen. With the old reddit themes you could just put a black everything over with squares in CSS but the new themes are so uncustomizable (especially in the app) that your average mass consumer may not even notice. In addition, anti-spam/anti-bandwagoning measures may be leveraged by reddit to censor protestors in the subreddits, along with banning of "malicious" moderators who attempt to enforce the strike on the most popular of the subreddits. While that would obviously degrade the moderation of those subreddits the sheer inertia of the communities will result in the consuming masses thinking everything is working as usual

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#46

What is the hard thing about building an open, user-friendly Reddit alternative? Hosting the posts shouldn't be that hard. Storage is so cheap these days. Is it the legal aspects of handling user generated content? Ranking the posts is another issue. Is that where the value of Reddit lies? Maybe one could build some hybrid thing which capitalizes on existing structures? I could imagine a frontend which only shows pos…

creating momentum is hard, even with a better product. Even before the internet, the slightly technologies did not necessarily get enough traction to unseat the incumbents

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The days of ... Digg losing to Reddit are over. I disagree. Especially somewhere like reddit where the power lies in a relatively small pool of moderators (ie. a couple of hundred people), who aren't well controlled by Reddit the company. These moderators could, if they organised together, kill the site in a matter of days. And I'm sure reddit-clones have been approaching the moderators with lucrative offers to do…

Surely, Reddit would just remove and replace these moderators at the first taste of real pain. Yes?

I don't think they'd have enough replacements ready quick enough. They'd have to decide between an influx of spam from having no moderation and upset users, massive disruption from upset disruptive moderators, or stale content by freezing all submissions to the site.

If I were in their position, I would have trained for this scenario, and already prepared a way to put entire subreddits into 'read only' mode which just replays history - ie. show funny cat pictures from last year. Then any subreddit that starts talking too much about leaving for a new platform gets put in read only mode. Let people think they are still interacting - ie. people can still upvote/downvote/comment, but it's mostly/all dummy stuff.

But... I bet they haven't prepared, and will be caught off guard.

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

#49

I'm curious how the logistics of this strike are going to happen. With the old reddit themes you could just put a black everything over with squares in CSS but the new themes are so uncustomizable (especially in the app) that your average mass consumer may not even notice. In addition, anti-spam/anti-bandwagoning measures may be leveraged by reddit to censor protestors in the subreddits, along with banning of "malici…

Mods can set the subreddit to private.

Re: Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The days of ... Digg losing to Reddit are over. I disagree. Especially somewhere like reddit where the power lies in a relatively small pool of moderators (ie. a couple of hundred people), who aren't well controlled by Reddit the company. These moderators could, if they organised together, kill the site in a matter of days. And I'm sure reddit-clones have been approaching the moderators with lucrative offers to do…

Surely, Reddit would just remove and replace these moderators at the first taste of real pain. Yes?

The last time subreddits staged a coordinated strike like this, Reddit warned they would replace moderators next time. I wonder if they'll make good on their threat? I wish they would, the powermod situation on reddit is out of control. Part of the reason these coordinated strikes happen is because most top subreddits are ran by the same handful of people. It would do reddit some good to get variety among the moderators.
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