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World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by skrebbel »

_Microft wrote: post #35
aeonik wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused, what do you mean there's not going to be a future for them? No doubt there's going to be some challenges, but I thought all that carbon was in the atmosphere and oceans before it was sequestered by plants and alagae. I thought the major issue was the speed of change, but we really don't know what life is thing to do in response. According to this article, during the Cambrian, the earth was 10C hotter th…

OK, so this is fine ? (No, I do not believe that)

Pretty much yes

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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[deleted] wrote: post #38
tpmx wrote: post #37

So it all boils down to how https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/optimum-interpolation-sst is created. The NOAA 1/4° Daily Optimum Interpolation Sea Surface Temperature (OISST) is a long term Climate Data Record that incorporates observations from different platforms (satellites, ships, buoys and Argo floats) into a regular global grid. The dataset is interpolated to fill gaps on the grid and create a spatially complet…

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Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by hutzlibu »

vondur wrote: post #33
hutzlibu wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children." But wasn't that always the case? War was always around the corner and nuclear missile threat amplified it. Btw. it seems the war made russia change its stance and some official "scientific" commitee has decided, that climate warming comes simply from radiation inside earth that follows a natural pattern. So no need to not burn coal then.…

China doesn't care one bit about climate change. China is building six times more new coal plants than other countries, report finds: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-...

I think they do care (they are also number 1 in rollout of most renewables), but they care more for social stability, that they can only sustain with high economic growth.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by adrianN »

aeonik wrote: post #30
PheonixPharts wrote: post #5

It's certainly a strange time to be alive. I was explaining to my child my work in AI, showing him images of himself as a character from his DnD campaign and at the same time am gently introducing him to the increasingly dire state of our climate. For parents of my generation "the talk" is not about sex, it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children. It feels like I am very literally li…

I'm confused, what do you mean there's not going to be a future for them? No doubt there's going to be some challenges, but I thought all that carbon was in the atmosphere and oceans before it was sequestered by plants and alagae. I thought the major issue was the speed of change, but we really don't know what life is thing to do in response. According to this article, during the Cambrian, the earth was 10C hotter th…

When all that carbon was in the atmosphere, dinosaurs weren't even around yet.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by slily »

edgefield wrote: post #24
slily wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's shut down the contrarians by making fun of them or calling them words, there is clearly no room to discuss complex phenomena, as we have learned in the last few years dealing with COVID-19 "misinformation".

OP wouldn’t be so skeptical except for the fact that 99% of scientists have been raising the alarm bells about climate change for 50 years and mainly politicians and commentators, often with little to no expertise and significantly biased due to fossil fuel connections and donations, have been questioning and undermining the science.

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Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by manmal »

PheonixPharts wrote: post #5

It's certainly a strange time to be alive. I was explaining to my child my work in AI, showing him images of himself as a character from his DnD campaign and at the same time am gently introducing him to the increasingly dire state of our climate. For parents of my generation "the talk" is not about sex, it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children. It feels like I am very literally li…

Why not frame it as „Major challenges ahead“ instead of „no future“? That sounds like a recipe for learned helplessness and defeatism.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

willcipriano wrote: post #32
hutzlibu wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children." But wasn't that always the case? War was always around the corner and nuclear missile threat amplified it. Btw. it seems the war made russia change its stance and some official "scientific" commitee has decided, that climate warming comes simply from radiation inside earth that follows a natural pattern. So no need to not burn coal then.…

> But wasn't that always the case? Nope and it isn't the case now. End of the world cults are a common feature of human societies, pretty much all of them have/had them. My personal guess is that egos are so big that people can't imagine a world after them so it's easier to say the world is going to end.

> End of the world cults are a common feature of human societies,

The different tech that can make good on the apocalypse are a relatively recent addition to the equation.

We've had the ability to lay waste to the planet for just a handful of generations.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by ed25519FUUU »

PheonixPharts wrote: post #5

It's certainly a strange time to be alive. I was explaining to my child my work in AI, showing him images of himself as a character from his DnD campaign and at the same time am gently introducing him to the increasingly dire state of our climate. For parents of my generation "the talk" is not about sex, it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children. It feels like I am very literally li…

My children aren’t going to care because I don’t care and there’s no reason to fill them with unnecessary doom and fear.

Yes it is outside of our sphere of influence. It’s bad parenting to make kids worry about things outside of their control.

And before you criticize me, know that I’m a cloth diapering, organic food growing back-to-land hippy. I’m happy to compare our carbon footprints.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by myshpa »

The warming of the oceans could lead to the following consequences:

- Coral reef collapse and loss of marine biodiversity.

- Accelerated sea-level rise, resulting in coastal flooding and displacement of populations.

- Ocean acidification, harming shell-forming organisms and marine ecosystems.

- Disruption of ocean currents, leading to altered weather patterns and increased extreme weather events, potentially causing massive oceanic dead zones leading to

- Release of hydrogen sulfide (H2S) from warming ocean sediments and decaying organic matter, a potential extinction event.

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Peter Ward: “Oceans - What’s the Worst that Can Happen?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eM1aakTzMw

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by adonig »

adrianN wrote: post #25
slily wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's shut down the contrarians by making fun of them or calling them words, there is clearly no room to discuss complex phenomena, as we have learned in the last few years dealing with COVID-19 "misinformation".

There certainly is no room to discuss them on Twitter. If the Twitter person has real data they should try writing a paper. There are about eight billion people who would love to see the CO2-theory of climate change falsified. They'd be a hero, trillions of dollars of unnecessary investment prevented, everybody rejoices.

> If the Twitter person has real data

His data is the data from the website this HN thread links to.

He's just pointing out that 32% of Sea Surface Temperature (SST) warming since 1995 arrived in a mere 3 weeks of 2023 and asks the question how that is possible.

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